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2020 Conference Media/Coach Polls & All-Conference Teams (so far)

2020.11.13 01:09 flagrantstats 2020 Conference Media/Coach Polls & All-Conference Teams (so far)

I've gathered all of the conference media/coach polls & all-conference teams announced to date. Sorry for any formatting issues.
America East Conference
No. School Points (1st Place Votes) 1. Maine 78 (6) 2. Stony Brook 76 (4) 3. UMass Lowell 62 4. UAlbany 54 T5. Binghamton 43 UMBC 43 7. Vermont 36 8. Hartford 24 9. New Hampshire 23 10. NJIT 11
2020-21 America East Women’s Basketball Preseason All-Conference Team Maeve Carroll, Sr., Forward - Maine Kharis Idom, Jr., Guard - UMass Lowell Blanca Millan, Sr., Guard - Maine India Pagan, Sr., Forward - Stony Brook Dor Saar, Sr., Guard - Maine
American Athletic Conference Women's Basketball Preseason Coaches’ Poll
  1. USF (8) 98
  2. UCF (1) 79
  3. Tulane 78
  4. Cincinnati (2) 73
  5. Temple 57
  6. Wichita State 54
  7. Houston 49
  8. Memphis 40
  9. East Carolina 36
  10. SMU 31
  11. Tulsa 10
Preseason Players of the Year IImar’I Thomas, F, Cincinnati Mia Davis, F, Temple
Preseason All-Conference First Team Brittney Smith, F, UCF IImar’I Thomas, F, Cincinnati* Lashonda Monk, G, East Carolina Mia Davis, F, Temple* Krystal Freeman, F, Tulane*
Preseason All-Conference Second Team Dulcy Fankam Mendjiadeu, F, Memphis Elisa Pinzan, G, USF Elena Tsineke, G, USF Arsula Clark, G, Tulane Mariah McCully, G, Wichita State
*denotes unanimous selection
Atlantic 10 Conference
PRESEASON POLL 1. VCU (10) 185 2. Dayton (2) 176 3. Saint Louis (1) 171 4. Davidson 140 Duquesne (1) 140 Fordham 140 7. Massachusetts 118 8. Richmond 81 9. George Washington 78 10. La Salle 70 11. Rhode Island 65 12. St. Bonaventure 42 13. Saint Joseph’s 41 14. George Mason 23
PRESEASON ALL-CONFERENCE FIRST TEAM
Player School Suzi-Rose Deegan Davidson Erin Whalen Dayton Libby Bazelak Duquesne Sam Breen Massachusetts Ciaja Harbison Saint Louis Tera Reed VCU
PRESEASON ALL-CONFERENCE SECOND TEAM Katie Turner Davidson Laia Sole Duquesne Kendell Heremaia Fordham Claire Jacobs La Salle Asianae Johnson St. Bonaventure Taya Robinson VCU
PRESEASON ALL-CONFERENCE THIRD TEAM Sarah Donovan Davidson Araion Bradshaw Dayton Kyla Whitehead Dayton Anna DeWolfe Fordham Neila Luma George Washington Rachel Kent Saint Louis
PRESEASON ALL-DEFENSIVE TEAM Araion Bradshaw Dayton Libby Bazelak Duquesne Brooke Flowers Saint Louis Ciaja Harbison Saint Louis Taya Robinson VCU
Atlantic Coast Conference
Head Coaches & Blue Ribbon Panel Preseason Player of the Year Dana Evans, Louisville, Sr., G
Head Coaches Preseason All-ACC Team Taylor Soule, Boston College, Jr., F Dana Evans, Louisville, Sr., G (12 Preseason Player of the Year Votes) Janelle Bailey, North Carolina, Sr., C Jakia Brown-Turner, NC State So., G Elissa Cunane, NC State, Jr., C (3) Kiara Lewis, Syracuse, Sr., G Tiana Mangakahia, Syracuse, Gr., G Elizabeth Kitley, Virginia Tech, So., C Aisha Sheppard, Virginia Tech, Sr., G Ivana Raca, Wake Forest, Sr., F
Head Coaches Newcomer Watch List Hailey Van Lith, Louisville, Fr., G Kianna Smith, Louisville, Jr., G Deja Kelly, North Carolina, Fr., G Maddy Westbeld, Notre Dame, Fr., F Kamilla Cardoso, Syracuse, Fr., C
Head Coaches Predicted Order of Finish Louisville (13 first-place votes) - 223 NC State (2) - 210 Syracuse - 193 North Carolina - 157 Georgia Tech - 146 Notre Dame - 138 Virginia Tech - 125 Florida State - 124 Boston College - 120 Miami - 99 Duke - 74 Wake Forest - 73 Clemson - 56 Pittsburgh - 37 Virginia - 25
Blue Ribbon Panel Preseason All-ACC Team (57 voters) Taylor Soule, Boston College, Jr., F (3) Dana Evans, Louisville, Sr., G (40) Janelle Bailey, North Carolina, Sr., C Elissa Cunane, NC State, Jr., C (11) Sam Brunelle, Notre Dame, So., F Kiara Lewis, Syracuse, Sr., G Tiana Mangakahia, Syracuse, Gr., G (3) Elizabeth Kitley, Virginia Tech, So., C Aisha Sheppard, Virginia Tech, Sr., G Ivana Raca, Wake Forest, Sr., F () Indicates preseason player of the year votes
Blue Ribbon Panel Newcomer Watch List Tiana England, Florida State, Gr., G Hailey Van Lith, Louisville, Fr., G Deja Kelly, North Carolina, Fr., G Maddy Westbeld, Notre Dame, Fr., F Kamilla Cardoso, Syracuse, Fr., C
Blue Ribbon Panel Predicted Order of Finish (57 voters) Louisville (45 first-place votes) – 840 points NC State (10) – 797 points Syracuse (2) – 724 points Notre Dame – 555 points North Carolina – 547 points Florida State – 516 points Virginia Tech – 482 points Boston College – 468 points Georgia Tech – 452 points Duke – 385 points Miami – 359 points Wake Forest – 258 points Clemson – 183 points Virginia – 149 points Pitt – 125 points
Atlantic Sun Conference
2020-21 ASUN Preseason WBB Coaches Poll Place Team (1st-Place Votes) Points 1. FGCU (5) 75 2. Liberty (1) 71 3. North Florida (3) 65 4. Stetson 47 5. Jacksonville 46 6. North Alabama 36 7. Lipscomb 29 8. Kennesaw State 25 9. Bellarmine 11
2020-21 ASUN Preseason WBB Media Poll Place Team (1st-Place Votes) Points 1. FGCU (23) 243 2. Liberty (4) 211 3. North Florida (1) 172 4. North Alabama 154 5. Jacksonville 148 6. Stetson 135 7. Lipscomb 78 8. Kennesaw State 77 9. Bellarmine 46
Preseason Player of the Year: Jazz Bond, North Florida Preseason Defensive Player of the Year: Jazz Bond, North Florida ASUN Preseason WBB All-Conference Team *Jazz Bond, North Florida, Sr., F *Jada Perry, Jacksonville, Sr., F *Amani Johnson, Kennesaw State, Jr., G *Emily Lytle, Liberty, Sr., F *Taylor Clark, Lipscomb, Sr., F *Olivia Noah, North Alabama, Sr., F *Day'Neshia Banks, Stetson, Sr., F Breia Torrens, Bellarmine, Sr., G Andrea Cecil, FGCU, Sr., G Ashtyn Baker, Liberty, Sr., G
Big 12 Conference
2020-21 Big 12 Conference Women’s Basketball Preseason Poll 1. Baylor (9) 81 2. Texas (1) 73 3. Iowa State 69 4. Kansas State 50 5. West Virginia 45 6. Texas Tech 36 7. Oklahoma 33 8. Oklahoma State 26 9. TCU 23 10. Kansas 14
Preseason Player of the Year: NaLyssa Smith, Baylor, F, 6-2, Jr., Converse, Texas Preseason Newcomer of the Year: DiJonai Carrington, Baylor, G, 5-11, Gr., San Diego, Calif. Preseason Freshman of the Year: Sarah Andrews, Baylor, G, 5-6, Irving, Texas
Preseason All-Big 12 Team (honors listed alphabetical by school) Player School Pos Ht Cl-Exp Hometown Queen Egbo Baylor C 6-3 Jr.-2L Houston, Texas DiDi Richards Baylor G 6-1 Sr.-3L Cypress, Texas NaLyssa Smith* Baylor F 6-2 Jr.-2L Converse, Texas Ashley Joens* Iowa State G/F 6-0 Jr.-2L Iowa City, Iowa Ayoka Lee* Kansas State C 6-5 So.-1L Byron, Minn. Taylor Robertson Oklahoma G 5-7 Jr.-2L McPherson, Kan. Natasha Mack* Oklahoma State G 6-4 Sr.-1L Lufkin, Texas Lauren Heard* TCU G 5-9 Sr.-3L Denton, Texas Charli Collier* Texas F/C 6-5 Jr.-2L Mont Belvieu, Texas Vivan Gray Texas Tech G 6-1 Sr.-TR Argyle, Texas All-Big 12 Honorable Mention Kristin Scott (Iowa State), Zakiyah Franklin (Kansas), Holly Kersgieter (Kansas), Rachel Ranke (Kansas State), Ana Llanusa (Oklahoma), Madi Williams (Oklahoma), Celeste Taylor (Texas), Chrislyn Carr (Texas Tech), Kysre Gondrezick (West Virginia) and Kari Niblack (West Virginia). Big East Conference
Team (first-place votes) Points 
1 Connecticut (10) 100 2 DePaul (1) 90 3 Marquette 83 4 St. John’s 69 5 Creighton 60 6 Seton Hall 59 7 Villanova 44 8 Butler 37 9 Xavier 31 10 Providence 22 11 Georgetown 10
BIG EAST Preseason Player of the Year Christyn Williams, Connecticut, Jr., G
BIG EAST Preseason Freshman of the Year Paige Bueckers, Connecticut, Fr., G*
Preseason All-BIG EAST Team^ Olivia Nelson-Ododa, Connecticut, Jr., F Evina Westbrook, Connecticut, R-Jr., G Temi Carda, Creighton, Sr., G Lexi Held, DePaul, Jr., G Sonya Morris, DePaul, Jr., G* Selena Lott, Marquette, Sr., G* Leilani Correa, St. John’s, So., G Qadashah Hoppie, St. John’s, Sr., G* Desiree Elmore, Seton Hall, Sr., G/F* Maddy Siegrist, Villanova, So., F* A’riana Gray, Xavier, Sr., F extra player added due to a tie in voting *unanimous selection
Big Sky Conference
Coaches’ Poll Teams Points T1. Idaho (4) 91 T1. Idaho State (2) 91 3. Northern Arizona (3) 80 4. Montana State (1) 77 5. Northern Colorado (1) 64 6. Montana 53 7. Portland State 50 8. Southern Utah 36 9. Sacramento State 26 10. Eastern Washington 23 11. Weber State 14
Media Poll 1. Idaho (16) 221 2. Idaho State (2) 206 3. Northern Arizona 180 4. Montana State (2) 173 5. Northern Colorado (1) 135 6. Portland State 127 7. Montana 122 8. Southern Utah 73 9. Eastern Washington 65 10. Sacramento State 54 11. Weber State 29
All-Conference Team Khiarica Rasheed Forward Senior Northern Arizona Gina Marxen Guard Junior Idaho Darian White Guard Sophomore Montana State Beyonce Bea Guard/Forward Sophomore Idaho Dora Goles Guard Senior Idaho State Alisha Davis Forward Sophomore Northern Colorado
Rasheed was Player of the Year
Big South Conference
Rk - School (first-place votes) Points 1 - Campbell (6) 112 2 - Radford (2) 107 3 - High Point (3) 104 4 - Hampton 86 5 - Gardner-Webb 70 6 - Longwood 66 7 - UNC Asheville 56 8 - Presbyterian College 48 9 - USC Upstate 30 10 - Charleston Southern 24 11 - Winthrop 23
First-Team Skyler Curran ,High Point ,Jr., G (Clemmons, N.C.) Laren VanArsdale, Hampton, Jr., G (Powder Springs, Ga.) Kyla McMakin ,Longwood ,Soph. ,G (Virginia Beach, Va.) Nylah Young ,Hampton ,Soph. ,F (Suffolk, Va.) Nadiria Evans ,UNC Asheville ,Sr. ,G (Gainesville, Fla.)
Second-Team Trinity Johnson ,Presbyterian College ,Jr. ,G (Hopkins, S.C.) Taya Bolden ,Campbell ,R-Sr., F (Richmond, Va.) Shy Tuelle ,Campbell ,Jr. ,G (Hampton, Tenn.) Luana Serranho ,Campbell ,Jr. ,G (Lisbon, Portugal) Amele Ngwafang ,Radford ,Jr. ,F (Silver Spring, Md.)
Big Ten Conference
2020-21 COACHES BIG TEN PRESEASON RANKINGS 1. Indiana 2. Maryland 3. Michigan 4. Northwestern 5. Ohio State
2020-21 COACHES PRESEASON ALL-BIG TEN TEAM Grace Berger, Jr., G, Indiana Ali Patberg, Sr., G, Indiana Monika Czinano, Jr., F/C, Iowa Ashley Owusu, So., G, Maryland NAZ HILLMON, Jr., F, Michigan Nia Clouden, Jr., G, Michigan State Veronica Burton, Jr., G, Northwestern LINDSEY PULLIAM, Sr., G, Northwestern DORKA JUHÁSZ, Jr., F, Ohio State ARELLA GUIRANTES, Sr., G, Rutgers
2020-21 COACHES BIG TEN CO-PRESEASON PLAYERS OF THE YEAR Naz Hillmon, Jr., F, Michigan Arella Guirantes, Sr., G, Rutgers
2020-21 MEDIA BIG TEN PRESEASON RANKINGS 1. Indiana 2. Northwestern 3. Maryland 4. Michigan 5. Ohio State
2020-21 MEDIA PRESEASON ALL-BIG TEN TEAM Grace Berger, Jr., G, Indiana Ali Patberg, Sr., G, Indiana Monika Czinano, Jr., F/C, Iowa Ashley Owusu, So., G, Maryland Naz Hillmon, Jr., F, Michigan Nia Clouden, Jr., G, Michigan State Veronica Burton, Jr., G, Northwestern LINDSEY PULLIAM, Sr., G, Northwestern Dorka Juhász, Jr., F, Ohio State ARELLA GUIRANTES, Sr., G, Rutgers
2020-21 MEDIA BIG TEN PRESEASON PLAYER OF THE YEAR Lindsey Pulliam, Sr., G, Northwestern
Big West Conference
Coaches Poll Results 1. UC Davis (6) 114 2. UC Irvine (2) 101 3. UC Santa Barbara 92 4. Cal Poly (2) 83 5. Hawai'i 71 6. Long Beach State 69 7. Cal State Fullerton 56 8. CSU Bakersfield (1) 48 9. CSUN 36 10. UC Riverside 32 11. UC San Diego 25
They have not announced all conference team(s)
Colonial Athletic Association
2020-21 CAA WOMEN’S BASKETBALL PREDICTED ORDER OF FINISH
  1. James Madison (6 first-place votes) 76
  2. Drexel (2 first-place votes) 65
  3. Towson (1 first-place vote) 60 t4. Elon (1 first-place vote) 54 t4. Northeastern 54
  4. Delaware 44
  5. Charleston 36
  6. William & Mary 33
  7. UNCW 15
  8. Hofstra 12
2020-21 CAA WOMEN’S BASKETBALL PRESEASON ALL-CONFERENCE TEAMS
First Team Cl. Pos. Ht. Hometown/High School Jasmine Dickey, Delaware Jr. G/F 5-10 Baltimore, Md./Catonsville Alexis Hill, Northeastern Jr. F 5-11 Lebanon, Pa./Lebanon Catholic Kiki Jefferson, James Madison So. G 6-1 Lancaster, Pa./Lancaster Catholic Kionna Jeter, Towson Sr. G 5-8 Spartanburg, S.C./Spartanburg Keishana Washington, Drexel Jr. G 5-7 Pickering, Ontario/Durham Prep
Second Team Cl. Pos. Ht. Hometown/High School Stella Clark, Northeastern Sr. G 5-4 Sea Girt, N.J./Manasquan Ariel Colon, Elon Sr. G 5-10 Orlando, Fla./Ocoee Arynn Eady, Charleston Jr. F 6-1 Atlanta, Ga./St. Francis Jaylen Hines, Hofstra Jr. F 5-10 Clinton, Md./Elizabeth Seton Latrice Perkins, Charleston Jr. G 5-11 Winder, Ga./Winder-Barrow
CAA Preseason Player of the Year: Kionna Jeter, Towson
Honorable Mention: Tyler Collins, Jr., G, Charleston; Hannah Nihill, Sr., G, Drexel; Carol-Anne Obusek, Sr., F, UNCW; Brie Perpignan, Jr., G, Elon; Brianna Tinsley, Jr., G, James Madison; Sydney Wagner, Jr., G, William & Mary
Conference USA
2020-21 C-USA Preseason Poll (first-place votes) 1. Middle Tennessee (8) 2. Rice (3) 3. Old Dominion (3) 4. Charlotte 5. WKU 6. UTEP 7. UAB 8. North Texas 9. Louisiana Tech 10. Florida Atlantic 11. Southern Miss 12. Marshall 13. UTSA 14. FIU 2020-21 C-USA Preseason Team Mariah Linney, Charlotte Amber Dixon, Louisiana Tech Savannah Wheeler, Marshall Aislynn Hayes, Middle Tennessee *Anastasia Hayes, Middle Tennessee *Nancy Mulkey, Rice Amari Young, Old Dominion Ajah Wayne, Old Dominion Katia Gallegos, UTEP
*Preseason Players of the Year
Horizon League
2020-21 #HLWBB Preseason Poll Results Pl. Team – Pts. (First-place votes) 1. IUPUI – 144 (12) 2. Green Bay – 120 3. Wright State – 118 4. Northern Kentucky – 105 5. Robert Morris – 88 6. Youngstown State – 84 7. Milwaukee – 76 8. Cleveland State – 64 9. Oakland – 54 10. Detroit Mercy – 38 11. Purdue Fort Wayne – 24 12. UIC – 21
Preseason Player of the Year Macee Williams, IUPUI
Preseason First Team (alphabetical order by school) Mariah White, Cleveland State Macee Williams, IUPUI Ally Niece, Northern Kentucky Angel Baker, Wright State Chelsea Olson, Youngstown State
Preseason Second Team (alphabetical order by school) Caitlyn Hibner, Green Bay Rachel McLimore, IUPUI Brandi Bisping, Milwaukee Kahlaijah Dean, Oakland Shamarre Hale, Wright State
Metro Atlantic Athletic Conference
Preseason Coaches’ Poll 1 Manhattan (5) 109 T2 Fairfield (4) 108 T2 Quinnipiac (2) 108 4 Marist 82 5 Iona 66 6 Siena 65 7 Rider 61 8 Monmouth 49 9 Saint Peter’s 39 10 Niagara 20 11 Canisius 19
Preseason Player of the Year Lou Lopez-Senechal - Fairfield
Preseason All-MAAC First Team Player Position Year Institution Katie Armstrong Guard/Forward Gr. Fairfield Lou Lopez-Senechal* Forward Jr. Fairfield Juana Camilion Guard Jr. Iona Emily LaPointe Guard So. Manhattan Courtney Warley* Center Sr. Manhattan *Denotes unanimous selection.
Preseason All-MAAC Second Team Player Position Year Institution Lucy Thomas Forward Jr. Monmouth Shaq Edwards Guard Sr. Quinnipiac Mikala Morris Forward/Center So. Quinnipiac Amanda Mobley Guard Jr. Rider Taiah Thornton Guard R-Sr. Saint Peter’s
Preseason All-MAAC Third Team Player Position Year Institution Paulla Weekes Forward R-So. Iona Gabby Cajou Guard Gr. Manhattan Willow Duffell Forward Sr. Marist Amari Anthony Guard Jr. Siena Rayshel Brown Guard Sr. Siena
Mid-Eastern Athletic Conference
2020-21 Predicted Order of Finish As voted on by the league’s head coaches and sports information directors; first-place votes are in parentheses
NORTHERN DIVISION School Points Norfolk State (12) 108 Morgan State (5) 105 Delaware State (1) 86 Howard 69 Maryland Eastern Shore (3) 61 Coppin State (1) 33 SOUTHERN DIVISION School Points Bethune-Cookman (18) 106 North Carolina A&T State (4) 85 North Carolina Central 69 South Carolina State 37 Florida A&M 33
2020-21 Preseason All-MEAC Teams As voted on by the league’s head coaches and sports information directors
Preseason Player of the Year: Amaya Scott, Bethune-Cookman
FIRST TEAM Name Pos. Ht. Class School Hometown Daniella Hatcher G 5-8 r-Sr. Bethune-Cookman Orlando, Fla. Amaya Scott F 6-1 Sr. Bethune-Cookman Sunrise, Fla. Jayla Thornton G 5-9 Sr. Howard Newark, N.J. Dahnye Redd F 5-11 r-Sr. Morgan State Darby, Pa. Anissa Rivera F 6-1 So. North Carolina Central Capitol Heights, Md.
SECOND TEAM Name Pos. Ht. Class School Hometown Sharajah Collins G/F 5-7 Sr. Delaware State Winter Haven, Fla. Ashia McCalla G 5-6 Jr. Morgan State Greenbelt, Md. Deja Winters F 5-11 Sr. North Carolina A&T State Cleveland, Ohio Kieche White G 5-4 Sr. North Carolina Central Washington, D.C. Heniaya Moton G 5-7 Sr. South Carolina State Washington, D.C.
THIRD TEAM Name Pos. Ht. Class School Hometown Aliyah Lawson G 5-7 Jr. Coppin State Whitby, Ontario Lyric Turner G 5-7 Sr. Delaware State Mansfield, Texas Krislyn Marsh F 6-0 Jr. Howard Houston, Texas Brooklyn Bailey G 5-4 Jr. Maryland Eastern Shore Rock Hill, S.C. Jayla Jones-Pack F/C 6-3 Sr. North Carolina A&T State Amityville, N.Y.
Missouri Valley Conference
2020-21 PRESEASON POLLRank Team (1st-place votes) Points 1. Missouri State (33) .....................................360 2. Bradley (7) ...................................................328 3. UNI ..............................................................288 4. Drake ...........................................................282 5. Illinois State .................................................223 6. Southern Illinois ..........................................201 7. Valparaiso ....................................................176 8. Loyola ...........................................................133 9. Indiana State ...............................................129 10. Evansville .......................................................80
Preseason All-Conference Team Brice Calip, Missouri State Jasmine Franklin, Missouri State Gabi Haack, Bradley Lasha Petree, Bradley Karli Rucker, UNI
Northeast Conference
  1. Mount St. Mary’s
  2. Sacred Heart
  3. Saint Francis U
  4. Fairleigh Dickinson
  5. Long Island U
  6. Wagner
  7. Merrimack
  8. Bryant
  9. St. Francis Brooklyn
  10. Central Connecticut
Preseason All-NEC team St. Francis Brooklyn’s Nevena Dimitrijevic (Kragujevac, Serbia) Sacred Heart’s Adrianne Hagood (Washington, DC) Mount St. Mary’s Michaela Harrison (Cleveland, OH) Wagner’s Emilija Krista Grava (Ligatne, Latvia) LIU’s Brandy Thomas (Baldwin, NY)
Ohio Valley Conference
2020-21 OVC Women’s Basketball Predicted Order of Finish 1. UT Martin (22 first-place votes) - 242 2. Belmont - 210 3. Southeast Missouri (Two first-place votes) - 206 4. Tennessee Tech - 172 5. Eastern Illinois - 157 6. Jacksonville State - 129 7. Morehead State - 119 8. Murray State - 106 9. Austin Peay - 104 10. Eastern Kentucky - 73 11. SIUE - 36 12 Tennessee State – 29
2020-21 Preseason All-Ohio Valley Conference Women’s Basketball Team Chelsey Perry, UT Martin* Tesia Thompson, Southeast Missouri* Maddie Waldrop, UT Martin* Karle Pace, Eastern Illinois* Macey Turley, Murray State* Kesha Brady, Tennessee Tech* Lariah Washington, Eastern Illinois*% Alexis Burpo, Murray State# Ariel Kirkwood, Morehead State#% Jamilyn Kinney, Belmont# Taylor Hawks, Jacksonville State#
Southern Conference
2020-21 Preseason Southern Conference Coaches Poll Team (1st-place votes) Total 1. Mercer (5) 45 2. Chattanooga (1) 39 3. Samford 33 4. Furman (1) 31 5. UNCG (1) 30 6. Wofford 24 7. ETSU 15 8. Western Carolina 7
2020-21 Preseason Player of the Year Shannon Titus, Sr., G/F, Mercer
2020-21 Preseason All-Southern Conference Team E’Lease Stafford, Jr., G/F, ETSU Tierra Hodges, R-Sr., G/F, Furman Jaron Dougherty, Jr., F, Mercer Shannon Titus, Sr., G/F, Mercer Aja Boyd, R-Sr., F/G, UNCG Natalie Armstrong, Sr., F, Samford Bria Dial, Sr., G, Chattanooga Eboni Williams, Jr., F, Chattanooga Lauren LaPlant, R-Sr., G, Western Carolina Jamari McDavid, Sr., F, Wofford
2020-21 Preseason Southern Conference Media Poll Team (1st-place votes) Total 1. Chattanooga (8) 115 2. Samford (4) 111 3. Mercer (2) 100 4. Furman (3) 89 UNCG (1) 89 6. Wofford 68 7. ETSU 52 8. Western Carolina 24
Southland Conference
2020-21 Southland Women’s Basketball Preseason Poll School (First-place votes) Total 1. Stephen F. Austin (14) 275 2. Sam Houston State (5) 257 3. Abilene Christian (4) 250 4. Texas A&M-Corpus Christi (3) 216 5. Southeastern Louisiana 160 6. Central Arkansas 157 7. New Orleans 153 8. Lamar 144 9. Nicholls 127 10. UIW 126 11. Houston Baptist 72 12. McNeese 48 13. Northwestern State 43
2020-21 Southland Conference Women’s Basketball Preseason All-Conference Teams First Team School Pos. Class Hometown Anna McLeod Abilene Christian G Sr. Houston, Texas Faith Cook Sam Houston State G Sr. Baytown, Texas Amber Leggett* Sam Houston State F Jr. Navarre, Florida Aiyana Johnson* Stephen F. Austin F/C Jr. Lee’s Summit, Mo. Stephanie Visscher* Stephen F. Austin G Jr. Lulea, Sweden
Second Team School Pos. Class Hometown Makayla Mabry Abilene Christian F Sr. San Antonio, Texas Angel Hastings Lamar G Jr. San Antonio, Texas Jadyn Pimentel Lamar G Sr. St. Louis, Mo. Morgan Carrier Southeastern Louisiana G Sr. New Iberia, La. Zya Nugent Stephen F. Austin G So. Denison, Texas
Southwestern Athletic Conference
2020-21 SWAC Predicted Order of Finish 1. Jackson State (159) 2. Texas Southern (148) 3. Southern (132) 4. Alabama A&M (112) 5. Prairie View A&M (96) 6. Alabama State (81) 7. Grambling State (70) 8. Arkansas-Pine Bluff (65) 9. Alcorn State (46) 10. Mississippi Valley State (26) 2020-21 SWAC Preseason Player of the Year Ameshya Williams- Jackson State
2020-21 SWAC Preseason Defensive Player of the Year Ameshya Williams- Jackson State
2020-21 Preseason All-SWAC First Team
Position Name Classification School Hometown Guard Justice Coleman Senior Grambling State Baton Rouge, La. Guard Dayzsha Rogan Senior Jackson State Ripley, Miss. Forward Niya Mitchell Graduate Texas Southern Bay City, Texas Forward Dariauna Lewis Junior Alabama A&M Omaha, Neb. Center Ameshya Williams Senior Jackson State Gulfport, Miss.
2020-21 Preseason All-SWAC Second Team
Position Name Classification School Hometown Guard Ataiya Bridges Senior Texas Southern Lanett, Ala. Guard Deshawna Harper Senior Alabama A&M Indianapolis, Ind. Guard Jayla Crawford Junior Alabama State Birmingham, Ala. Guard Ayana Emmanuel Junior Alabama State Fort Lauderdale, Fla. Guard Nigeria Jones Senior Alabama A&M Lincoln, Neb.
Sun Belt Conference
Women's Basketball 2020-21 Preseason Coaches Poll: Troy 140 (9) UTA 115 (1) South Alabama 112 (1) Louisiana 111 (1) Little Rock 99 Coastal Carolina 83 Arkansas State 78 App State 56 Georgia State 44 Georgia Southern 41 Texas State 37 ULM 20
East Troy South Alabama Coastal Carolina App State Georgia State Georgia Southern
West UTA Louisiana Little Rock Arkansas State Texas State ULM
Women's Basketball Preseason Player of the Year Antoinette Lewis, South Alabama (#35, Sr, C - Memphis, Tenn.)
Women's Basketball Preseason All-Conference First Team Antoinette Lewis, South Alabama Ty'Reona Doucet, Louisiana Alexus Dye, Troy Aja Blount, Coastal Carolina Savannah Jones, South Alabama
Women's Basketball Preseason All-Conference Second Team Teal Battle, Little Rock Pre Stanley, App State Jasmine Robinson, Troy Da'Nasia Hood, Texas State Taylor Hosendove, Georgia State
Women's Basketball Preseason All-Conference Third Team Jireh Washington, Arkansas State Claire Chastain, UTA Brandi Williams, Louisiana Felmas Koranga, Troy Katie Ferrell, UTA
The Summit League
Preseason Poll Rank School (1st Place Votes) Points 1. South Dakota (25) 587 2. South Dakota State (11) 566 3. Western Illinois 389 4. Oral Roberts 376 5 North Dakota State 371 6. Kansas City 323 7. Denver 300 8. North Dakota 203 9. Omaha 124
2020-21 Preseason Summit League Player of the Year Hannah Sjerven – South Dakota
Preseason All-Summit League First Team Paiton Burckhard, South Dakota State, Jr., F (14.2 ppg/5.7 rpg/1.8 apg) Chloe Lamb, South Dakota, Sr., G (11.2 ppg/3.3 rpg/1.5 apg) Keni Jo Lippe, Oral Roberts, Sr., G (18.5 ppg/8.0 rpg/2.5 apg) Mariah Murdie, Omaha, Jr., F (11.1 ppg/6.0 rpg/1.2 bpg) Myah Selland, South Dakota State, Jr., F (13.8 ppg/5.0 rpg/3.0 apg) Hannah Sjerven, South Dakota, Sr., F (12.2 ppg/7.3 rpg/2.0 bpg)*
Preseason All-Summit League Second Team Monica Arens, South Dakota, Sr., G (9.3 ppg/3.9 rpg/1.8 apg) Julia Fleecs, North Dakota, Jr., F (12.2 ppg/4.8 rpg/0.7 apg) Tylee Irwin, South Dakota State, Sr., F (8.5 ppg/5.1 rpg/2.3 apg) Tori Nelson, South Dakota State, So., F (9.7 ppg/3.9 rpg/1.0 spg) Evan Zars, Western Illinois, Jr., F (9.1 ppg/9.3 rpg/1.5 bpg)
*Preseason player of the year automatically earns a spot on the first team
West Coast Conference
2020-21 WCC Preseason Women’s Basketball Coaches Poll Team (First Place Vote) Pts. 1. Gonzaga (7) 79 2. BYU (2) 73 3. Portland (1) 64 4. San Diego 53 5. Saint Mary’s 44 6. Pacific 42 7. Pepperdine 28 8. LMU 25 9. Santa Clara 22 10. San Francisco 20
2020-21 All-WCC Preseason Women’s Basketball Team Name Year Pos. Institution Haylee Andrews Jr. G Portland Alex Fowler So. F Portland Shaylee Gonzales So. G BYU Sara Hamson Sr. C BYU Valerie Higgins Sr. G Pacific Paisley Johnson Harding Sr. G BYU Brooklyn McDavid Sr. F Pacific Myah Pace Sr. G San Diego Sam Simons Jr. G Saint Mary’s Jill Townsend Sr. G Gonzaga Jenn Wirth Sr. F Gonzaga
Western Athletic Conference
2020-21 Preseason Women's Basketball Media Poll Rank Team (1st Place Votes) Points T1. California Baptist (5) 61 2. Utah Valley (1) 60 3. UT Rio Grande Valley 56 4. NM State (1) 53 5. Seattle U 41 6. Grand Canyon (1) 39 7. Tarleton 23 8. Dixie State 17 9. Chicago State 10
2020-21 Preseason Women's Basketball Media All-WAC Teams First Team Ane Olaeta, California Baptist Amara Graham, UT Rio Grande Valley Maria Carvalho, Utah Valley Aaliyah Prince, NM State Britney Thomas, California Baptist
Second Team Josie Williams, Utah Valley Courtney Murphy, Seattle U Georgia Dale, California Baptist Caitlyn Harper, California Baptist Soufia Inoussa, NM State
Preseason Player of the Year: Ane Olaeta, California Baptist
The MAC, the Mountain West, the Pac-12, the Patriot League, and the SEC haven’t announced anything yet. The Ivy League is not playing this season due to COVID-19.
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2020.11.11 08:37 maari1313 Annoying characters (in my opinion)

Let's just discuss how many crappy/annoying characters are on this show..
  1. Paige- I know she's an OG but gosh she was the worst, from the beginning... She got Terri drunk so she could be with Spinner at the dance even though he was not even into her (yet).
  2. Marco- Using Ellie despite the crush she had on him because he wasn't ready to be out yet. Very selfish character all around.
  3. Peter- DONT GET ME STARTED. First he sends out that video of Manny to the whole school. Plants drugs into Sean's locker to frame him. Shows Darcys photos to Spinner which causes Darcy and Spinner to break up. Then when Mia and him get invited to a party at Declan and Fiona's house he does meth and he starts acting crazy ruining the evening.
  4. Clare- EVERYTHING IS SO DRAMATIC WITH CLARE!!! the most judgmental character there is... "you broke my heart!!" gosh shut up.. i just cannot deal with her
  5. Riley- Would constantly play with Zane's feelings and also used girls to hide the fact that he was gay (giving me big Marco vibes)
  6. Dave- ALSO A SUPER LAME character (Peter vibes) was always telling his "friends" that they weren't cool. Tased Wesley so he could be cool for 2 seconds. Bashed Adam on air because he was FTM then came to school dressed as a girl trying to "prove a point". Then stereotyped being gay so he could do Romeo and Jules. Was a terrible boyfriend to Alli; he was mad that she went away to science camp for the summer and then while she was gone he cheated on her, then when she had a pregnancy scare and had to choose between staying behind and MIT he kept pressuring her to stay home (despite her dream of MIT). Then he agrees to support her and be there with her and then dumps her.
  7. KC- Flirts hardcore with Jenna when he is with Clare which ends with him breaking up with Clare to get with Jenna. Breaks up with Jenna after getting her pregnant because she wants to keep the baby. Cheats on Jenna with Marisol.
  8. Marisol- Started flirting hardcore with KC even though he had a baby and was with Jenna. Then gets mad at Katie because Drew likes her and tells the whole school how she is a fake friend. Then frames Fiona and Imogen for foiling up the cafeteria. Then doesn't want to be with Mo initially because he was a bigger guy. Goes through Mo's bag and instead of talking to him assumes he does drugs. But still gets mad that its insulin for diabetes because he doesn't "trust" her
  9. Maya- WAY TOO NOSY. She can't keep her mouth shut about anything. And just "HAS" to do something to fix everyone else's problems... thinks she is better than her music class. Kisses Zig even though he is with Tori. Dates Cam even though Tristan had a crush on him. Also dates Miles when Tristan had a crush. Playing with both Miles and Zig.
  10. Luke- well 1) he assaulted Zoe, 2.) huge bully despite his love for Jesus. Destroys Jake and Katie's garden. Locks Tristan into a closet so he can't perform in the play
I know there are probably more but there are SO MANY characters. Maybe part 2 coming soon....
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2020.10.21 03:19 MaddiRenee_ Darcy and Spinner are underrated

I know a lot of people talk about spinner and Paige/Jane, and Darcy’s relationship with Peter, but I think spinner and Darcy were pretty good together too.
Don’t get me wrong, I don’t think they should’ve ended up together and they had their flaws for sure, but I think spinner became a much better person when he dated Darcy. He was in a pretty dark place and being with Darcy helped him grow up a bit I think.
I also loved it when they hung out in season 7. Both of them were in such a dark place and I wish we saw more of them together as friends. This would’ve been an interesting dynamic imo!
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2020.09.30 13:13 User18940505 An exhaustive list of intriguing and unsolved disappearances

So I’m back!
I just finished editing my previous post, adding those which you guys suggested and removing those that seem to have been solved. This will most likely be the case here, as my research is not wholly up to date.
This is a bit of a broader topic, since a disappearance does not necessarily allude to a crime. As far as I am aware, the majority of these cases have suspicious circumstances.
Hope you find this interesting! Like the previous post, a lot of these cases are in chronological order, but not all. They are accurately categorised into their respective decades, however.
Before 1800s
Romulus
Alexander Helios and Ptolemy Philadelphus
Legio IX Hispana
Al-Hakim bi-Amr Allah
Renier of Montferrat
Gearóid Iarla
Jianwen Emperor
Owain Glyndŵr
Constantine XI Palaiologos
François Villon
The Princes in the Tower
Lord Lovell
David Thompson
Erdeni Bumba
René Menard
Laurens de Graaf
Khe Pandjang
James Harrod
1800-1899
James Derham
Benjamin Bathurst
William Morgan
John Lansing Jr.
William Hare
Joseph Gellibrand
Henry Bryan
Charles Christian Dutton
Sequoyah
William Overton
Khachatur Abovian
Ludwig Leichhardt
Sándor Petőfi
Matias Perez
Solomon Northup
Nana Sahib
Captain James William Boyd
Agoston Haraszthy
John V. Creely
Charley Ross
William Cantelo
Jesse Evans
David Mather
Henry Boynton Clitz
Louis Le Prince
Hermann Fol
Frank Lenz
Albert Jennings and Henry Fountain
1900s
The Eilean Mor Lighthouse Keepers
Yda Hillis Addis
Eduard von Toll
Joseph Kelly
1910s
Bobby Dunbar
The U.S.S. Cyclops
Rudolf Diesel
Arthur Cravan
Ambrose Bierce
Dorothy Arnold
Sebastiano DiGaetano
F. Lewis Clark
František Gellner
Alejandro Bello Silva
Knud Andersen
Mansell Richard James
Ambrose Small
1920s
Homer Lemay
Clayton Kratz
Victor Grayson
Alejandro Carrascosa
Andrew Irvine
Liu Menggeng
Percy Fawcett
Sidney Reilly
Alice Corbett
Frederick McDonald
Marvin Clark
Charles Nungesser and François Coli
Włodzimierz Zagórski
Paul Redfern
Walter Collins
Glen and Bessie Hyde
Joe Porrazzo
Frank Baumgarteker
1930s
Everett Ruess
Amelia Earhart and Fred Noonan
Joseph Force Crater
Tony Buccola
Mary Agnes Moroney
Joseph Neuman
Raymond Nugent
Joseph Ardizzone
Jack Black
Julien Torma
C.B. Johnston
Wallace Fard Muhammad
Etta Riel
Li Yuan
Jean Mermoz
Juliet Stuart Poyntz
Andrew Carnegie Whitfield
Willie McLean
Alfred Beilhartz
Barbara Newhall Follett
Lloyd L. Gaines
Rita Gorgonowa
Marjorie West
1940s
The Sodder Children
Heinrich Müller
Jean Spangler
Glenn Miller
Thomas C. Latimore
Jaan Tõnisson
Alter Rotmann
Dan Billany
Abraham Gancwajch
Endre Rudnyánszky
Moriz Seeler
Herschel Grynszpan
Rocco Perri
Sheila Fox
Johan Pitka
Gertrude Tompkins Silver
Erna Petermann
Karla Mayer
Raoul Wallenberg
Constanze Manziarly
Hildegard Neumann
Supriyadi
Genrikh Lyushkov
Alfred Partikel
Johnny Jebsen
Paula Jean Welden
Daniel S. Voorhees
Joan Gay Croft
Lai Teck
Virginia Carpenter
Dorothy Forstein
Francis Hong Yong-ho
1950s
Richard Colvin Cox
Lionel Crabb
Lawrence Joseph Bader
Vincent Mangano
Beverly Potts
Rudolf Mildner
Henry Borynski
Evelyn Hartley
Felix Moncla and Robert Wilson
Stanley Mathenge
Herman Schultheis
Weldon Kees
Steven Damman
Bob Lymburne
The Martin Family
Mary Flanagan
1960s
The Beaumont Children
Jim Thompson
Harold Holt
John Anglin, Clarence Anglin and Frank Morris
Masanobu Tsuji
Ann Marie Burr
Joan Risch
Michael Rockefeller
Archie E. Mitchell and Eleanor Ardel Vietti
Sam Sary
Anthony Strollo
Charles Clifford Ogle
Mehdi Ben Barka
Charles Rogers
Kim Bong-han
Susan Pearson
Wikana
Ann Miller, Patricia Blough and Renee Bruhl
Chu Anping
James P. Brady and Abraham Halkett
John Lake
Eugene DeBruin
Fred Donald Miller
April Fabb
Dennis Martin
Patricia Spencer and Pamela Hobley
1970s
Jimmy Hoffa
D.B. Cooper
Frederick Valentich
Brad Bishop
Jim Sullivan
Etan Kalil Patz
Akpan Utuk
Cheryl Grimmer
Dana Stone
Edward and Stephania Andrews
Mauro De Mauro
Helen Claire Frost
Robin Graham
Jean Virginia Sampare
Lynne Schulze
Adrien McNaughton
Nick Begich and Hale Boggs
Ray Robinson
Joanne Ratcliffe and Kirste Gordon
Guðmundur and Geirfinnur Einarsson
Oscar Zeta Acosta
Pavlos Kouroupis
Connie Converse
The Fort Worth Missing Trio
Joanne Elaine Coughlin
Mona Blades
Juanita Nielsen
Eloise Worledge
Sandy Davidson
Andy Puglisi
Renee and Andrew MacRae
Helen Brach
Mary Boyle
Don Taxay
Peter Winston
John Brisker
Trudie Adams
Genette Tate
Christie Farni
Harry Domela
Jim Robinson
J.C.P. Williams
Martin Allen
1980s
Anthonette Cayedito
Kimberly Moreau
Johnny Gosch
Randy Wayne Leach
Tara Calico
Stacey Arras
John Patrick Kerrigan
Cherrie Mahan
Louise and Charmian Faulkner
Laureen Rahn
Peng Jiamu
Alan Addis
Thomas A. Mutch
Johan Asplund
Alaide Foppa
Katrice Lee
George Washington Hughes
Lynette Dawson
Kathleen McCormack Durst
Ahmad Motevaselian
Stephen Pearsall
Tony Jones
Upali Wijewardene
Ludovic Janvier
Mirella Gregori
Ann Gotlib
Emanuela Orlandi
Nyleen Kay Marshall
Tammy Lynn Leppert
Kirsa Jensen
George Cogar
Naomi Uemura
Tammy Belanger
Ronald Jorgenson
Boris Weisfeiler
Cherrie Mahan
Vladimir Alexandrov
Andrew Fluegelman
Diane Suzuki
Cotah Ramaswami
Martha Jean Lambert
Madame Max Adolphe
Agustín Feced
Suzy Lamplugh
Jeremy Bright
Philip Cairns
Simon Parkes
Federico Caffè
Julie Weflen
Susan Smalley and Stacie Madison
Ron Arad
Antonio Bardellino
Amber Swartz-Garcia
Lee Boxell
Michaela Garecht
Tiffany Sessions
Patricia Meehan
Charles Horvath-Allan
Reino Gikman
Melanie Melanson
Alois Brunner
1990s
Amy Lynn Bradley
Jared Negrete
The Death Valley Germans
Monique Daniels
Ashley Freeman and Lauria Bible
Diane Augat
Pedro Alonso López
Nicholas Barclay
Richey Edwards
The Springfield Three
Amy Wroe Bechtel
Ames Glover
Dannette and Jeanette Millbrook
Teddy Wang
Christopher Kerze
Paige Renkoski
Trevaline Evans
Sarah MacDiarmid
Eugene John Hebert
Mahmoud Mahmoud Atta
Licorice McKechnie
Thomas Gibson
Michael Dunahee
Tanong Po-arn
Ben Needham
Kelly Dae Wilson
Virginia Guerrero and Manuela Torres
Leigh Occhi
Jarosław Ziętara
Taif Ajba
Annie McCarrick
Wopko Jensma
Katheryne Eggleston
Sara Anne Wood
Ylenia Carrisi
Cleashindra Hall
Sukhwinder Singh Bhatti
Ernst Priesner
Abani Chakraborty
Jacobo Grinberg
Dor Bahadur Bista
Fred Cuny
Gedhun Choekyi Nyima
Morgan Nick
Jodi Huisentruit
Erin Marie Gilbert
Yolanda Panek
Andrew Shumack
Ruth Wilson
Kristin Smart
Ruslan Labazanov
Susan Walsh
Damien Nettles
Adam, Trevor and Mitchell O’Brien
Patrick Warren and David Spencer
Kristen Modafferi
Don Lewis
Guy Hever
Sabrina Aisenberg
Widji Thukul
Suzanne Lyall
Rui Pedro Teixeira Mendonça
Gilbert Wynter
Deirdre Jacob
Pirouz Davani
Joan Lawrence
Derrick Engebretson
Angelo Cruz
Paul Skiba, Sarah Skiba and Lorenzo Chivers
Kevin Palmer
Yury Zacharanka
Yves, Marie-France, Marius and Camille Godard
Viktar Hanchar and Anatoly Krasouski
Raisa Räisänen
Marat Manafov
Julie Surprenant
Michael Negrete
2000s
Brian Shaffer
Asha Degree
Andrew Gosden
Michele Miscavige
Zebb Quinn
Trevor Deely
Jennifer Kesse
Brandon Swanson
Maura Murray
Ray Gricar
Jim Gray
Sneha Ann Philip
Terrance Williams and Felipe Santos
Mitrice Robinson
Leah Roberts
Joseph Kibweteere
Bruno Manser
Dzmitry Zavadski
Zelimkhan Murdalov
Rilya Wilson
Branson Perry
Jason Jolkowski
The Gill Family
Marita Verón
Saeed Zeinali
Tabitha Tuders
Ben Charles Padilla
Ali Astamirov
Reda Helal
Kirk von Ackermann
Charlene Downes
Tariq Mahmood
Somchai Neelapaijit
Brianna Maitland
Guy-André Kieffer
Mohammed Al Afghani
Tamra Jewel Keepness
David Louis Sneddon
Joanna Cipriano
Iraena Asher
Danielle Imbo and Richard Petrone Jr.
Alfredo Jiménez Mota
Rahul Raju
Natalee Holloway
Tara Grinstead
Rahma el-Dennaoui
Joe Pichler
Jessie Foster
Sherlyn Cadapan and Karen Empeño
Ebrima Manneh
Thiruchelvam Nihal Jim Brown
Anthony Zizzo
Jorge Julio López
Oralgaisha Omarshanova
Robert Levinson
Lisa Stebic
Madeleine McCann
Ashley Summers
Lovinsky Pierre-Antoine
Elodia Ghinescu
Stacy Ann Peterson
Aeryn Gillern
Amy Fitzpatrick
Marilyn Bergeron
Jamie Fraley
Alex Sloley
Claudia Lawrence
Brittanee Drexel
Craig Arnold
Marsha Brantley
Paul Tseng
Toni Sharpless
Steven Koecher
2010s
The McStay Family
Lars Mittank
Kyron Horman
Kenny Veach
Lauren Spierer
Ben McDaniel
Bryce Laspisa
The MH370 Aircraft
Ayla Reynolds
Rico Harris
Phoenix Coldon
Russell Bohling
Paolo Renda
Vasyl Klymentyev
Forrest Schab
Alessia and Livia Schepp
Bethany Decker
Timmothy Pitzen
Maddy Scott
Cristina Siekavizza
Lisa Irwin
Daniel Lind Lagerlöf
Sky Metalwala
Jonathan Spollen
Timothy MacColl
Guma Aguiar
Vadim Pappe
Tiffany Whitton
Austin Tice
Emma Fillipoff
Sombath Somphone
Zsolt Erőss
Federico Tobares
Maureen Kelly
Marie-José and Allison Benitez
Aidin Bozorgi, Pouya Keivan and Mojta Jarahi
Robert Hoagland
Tiffany Daniels
Carlos Ornelas Puga
Heather Elvis
Billy Rakchongcharoen
Avera Mengistu
William Tyrrell
Tammy Kingery
Daylenn Pua
Lucas Tronche
Asha Kreimer
Charity Aiyedogbon
Logan Schiendelman
Kristal Reisinger
Corrie McKeague
Najeeb Ahmed
Zelim Bakaev
Anastácio Alves
Georgina Gharsallah
Karl-Erivan Haub
Surachai Danwattananusorn
Comment any you think I missed, I’m sure there’s a couple!
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lists_of_people_who_disappeared
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/time.com/5532711/mysterious-unsolved-disappearances/%3famp=true
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2020.09.18 04:04 newenglandergiirl Any ships you didn’t care for but lots of other people seemed to ship them?

I was rewatching some old Degrassi episodes and I was thinking about some of the couples a lot of people seemed to ship I didn’t get the hype and found them overrated or problematic. Here’s some of mine.
Spinner and Paige: They were each other’s first loves and a typical high school relationship but I couldn’t bring myself to ship them. They had mutual friends but I am a little salty that Paige kinda stole spinner from Terri and got her drunk so she could have spinner to herself.
Johnny and Alli: A senior and freshman only 3 years apart max which isn’t that big of an age gap but Alli was too young for Johnny. He was ashamed to be seen with her in public and lied to her about being a virgin and put her at risk for an std. Not to mention he sent Bruce her racy pics without her consent because she put up that pic of him with a teddy bear.
Peter and Darcy: It seems like a lot of people ship them and think she made him “better” but they were such a problematic and toxic ship. He scammed her with MyRoomPage and saying Adams was their age but he was a much older man who stalked her by following her to school and to her house. If Clare didn’t call 911 who knows what Adams could’ve done to Darcy. And they were more infatuated with each other than in love. Peter was there for his girlfriends like after Darcy’s r*pe and Emma’s anorexia.
Jonah and Frankie. This is Next Class, but I didn’t get the hype about them. Jonah was mean to Frankie and their relationship wasn’t developed well. They didn’t get along before they kissed for the first time and even though they’re only at most 1-2 years apart she seemed too young for him. Plus him and Grace were having secret conversations and was defensive when Frankie wanted to know what they were talking about and he told grace he thought frankie was immature. Not to mention Frankie stalked Jonah because she couldn’t trust him. Frankie rightfully assumed there was something going on between Jonah and Grace, he had feelings for her when still with Frankie and then ended up dating grace right after. I don’t condone Frankie for hacking into Jonah’s FaceRange but Jonah was trash and a bad boyfriend, and their relationship was so toxic.
This is what I could think of for ships I find overrated end of rant. Anyone else have any ships they find overrated?
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2020.09.05 16:45 LobbyLoiterer 2020 Election Candidate Information - Stay Informed!

Mail-in ballots will soon be sent to every registered voter in Nevada, so I thought I'd make this post to help keep Washoe County voters informed on their choices. As with every election, it is important for us to decide how we want to move our country and our state forward. And with mail-in ballots, it's even easier to take our time and make a clear decision using all the resources at our disposal before casting our votes. Remember that your vote matters, and that you have the opportunity to choose who represents you on the political stage.
All candidates are listed in alphabetical order.
Key: (D) = Democratic Party (IA) = Independent-American Party (L) = Libertarian Party (R) = Republican Party (I) = Independent candidate (NP) = Non-Partisan candidate
PRESIDENT & VICE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES TwitterWebsite Joe Biden (D) VP: Twitter Kamala Harris (D)
TwitterWebsite Don Blankenship (IA) VP: William Mohr (IA)
TwitterWebsite Jo Jorgensen (L) VP: Twitter Jeremy "Spike" Cohen (L)
TwitterWebsite Donald Trump (R) VP: Twitter Mike Pence (R)
U.S. HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES - NEVADA 2nd DISTRICT TwitterWebsite Mark Amodei (R) TwitterWebsite Patricia Ackerman (D) Richard Dunn (I) Janine Hansen (IA)
NEVADA BOARD OF REGENTS - DISTRICT 10 Joseph Arrascada (NP) Kevin Melcher (NP)
NEVADA STATE SENTATE - DISTRICT 15 TwitterWebsite Catana Barnes (I) Twitter Heidi Gansert (R) Twitter Wendy Jauregui-Jackins (D)
NEVADA STATE ASSEMBLY - DISTRICT 24 Twitter Sarah Peters (D)
NEVADA STATE ASSEMBLY - DISTRICT 25 TwitterWebsite Jill Tolles (R)
NEVADA STATE ASSEMBLY - DISTRICT 26 Vance Alm (D) TwitterWebsite Lisa Krasner (R)
NEVADA STATE ASSEMBLY - DISTRICT 27 TwitterWebsite Teresa Benitez-Thompson (D) Barb Hawn (R)
NEVADA STATE ASSEMBLY - DISTRICT 30 TwitterWebsite Natha Anderson (D) TwitterWebsite Randy Hoff (R) Charlene Young (IA)
NEVADA STATE ASSEMBLY - DISTRICT 31 Website Skip Daly (D) TwitterWebsite Jill Dickman (R)
NEVADA STATE ASSEMBLY - DISTRICT 32 TwitterWebsite Alexis Hansen (R) Website Paula Povilatis (D)
NEVADA STATE ASSEMBLY - DISTRICT 40 TwitterWebsite Sena Loyd (D) TwitterWebsite Philip O'Neill (R)
NEVADA SUPREME COURT - SEAT B TwitterWebsite Kris Pickering (NP)
NEVADA SUPREME COURT - SEAT D TwitterWebsite Ozzie Fumo (NP) Website Douglas Herndon (NP)
NEVADA INTERMEDIATE APPELLATE COURT - DEPARTMENT 3 Website Bonnie Bulla (NP) Website Susan Bush (NP)
WASHOE COUNTY DISTRICT COURT JUDGE - DISTRICT 1 Marsha Berkbigler (R) TwitterWebsite Alexis Hill (D)
WASHOE COUNTY DISTRICT COURT JUDGE - DISTRICT 4 Marie Baker (D) Vaughn Hartung (R)
WASHOE COUNTY SCHOOL BOARD OF TRUSTEES - DISTRICT A Website Jeff Church (NP) Scott Kelley (NP)
WASHOE COUNTY SCHOOL BOARD OF TRUSTEES - DISTRICT E Matthew Montognese (NP) Website Angie Taylor (NP)
WASHOE COUNTY SCHOOL BOARD OF TRUSTEES - DISTRICT G Diane Nicolet (NP) Craig Wesner (NP)
NEVADA 2nd JUDICIAL DISTRICT - DEPARTMENT 1 Kathleen Drakulich (NP)
NEVADA 2nd JUDICIAL DISTRICT - DEPARTMENT 3 Tammy Riggs (NP)
NEVADA 2nd JUDICIAL DISTRICT - DEPARTMENT 4 Connie Steinheimer (NP)
NEVADA 2nd JUDICIAL DISTRICT - DEPARTMENT 6 Lynne Simons (NP)
NEVADA 2nd JUDICIAL DISTRICT - DEPARTMENT 7 Egan Walker (NP)
NEVADA 2nd JUDICIAL DISTRICT - DEPARTMENT 8 Barry Breslow (NP)
NEVADA 2nd JUDICIAL DISTRICT - DEPARTMENT 9 Scott N. Freeman (NP)
NEVADA 2nd JUDICIAL DISTRICT - DEPARTMENT 10 Elliott A. Sattler (NP) Kathleen Sigurdson (NP)
NEVADA 2nd JUDICIAL DISTRICT - DEPARTMENT 15 David Hardy (NP)
NEVADA 2nd JUDICIAL DISTRICT (FAMILY DIVISION) - DEPARTMENT 2 Dixie Grossman (NP)
NEVADA 2nd JUDICIAL DISTRICT (FAMILY DIVISION) - DEPARTMENT 5 Cynthia Lu (NP)
NEVADA 2nd JUDICIAL DISTRICT (FAMILY DIVISION) - DEPARTMENT 11 Paige Dollinger (NP) Greg Shannon (NP)
NEVADA 2nd JUDICIAL DISTRICT (FAMILY DIVISION) - DEPARTMENT 12 Sandra Unsworth (NP)
NEVADA 2nd JUDICIAL DISTRICT (FAMILY DIVISION) - DEPARTMENT 13 Aaron Bushur (NP) Bridget Robb Peck (NP)
NEVADA 2nd JUDICIAL DISTRICT (FAMILY DIVISION) - DEPARTMENT 14 Tamatha Schreinert (NP)
NEVADA 2nd JUDICIAL DISTRICT (FAMILY DIVISION) - DEPARTMENT 16 Aimee Banales (NP)
RENO MUNICIPLE COURT - DEPARTMENT 1 Gene Drakulich (NP)
I've removed the questions and tried to simplify them as best and as fairly as I can. The actual wording on the ballot is always intentionally in confusing "legalese". Also note that, for whatever reason, there is no Question 5 on the ballot.
QUESTION 1 - BOARD OF REGENTS
Voting "YES" would amend the Nevada Constitution to remove the Board of Regents and giving their power over state universities to the state legislature. The question specifically includes administration over federal land grant proceeds.
Voting "NO" would leave things the way they are.
QUESTION 2 - MARRIAGE
Voting "YES" would amend the Nevada Constitution to repeal 2002's Question 2 which defined marriage as being between a man and a woman, and replace it with recognition of marriage between any two people, regardless of gender. It would also acknowledge that religious organizations and clergypersons would have the right to refuse to solemnize a marriage.
Voting "NO" would leave things the way they are.
QUESTION 3 - PARDONS BOARD
Voting "YES" would amend the Nevada Constitution to require the State Board of Pardons Commissioners to meet four times a year, authorize any member of the board to submit matters for consideration, and allow the board to grant a pardon without governor consent.
Voting "NO" would leave things the way they are. There is no current number of meetings required of the board, and currently the majority voting in favor of pardon must include the governor in order for the pardon to be granted.
QUESTION 4 - VOTER RIGHTS
Voting "YES" would amend the Nevada Constitution to include a list of rights guaranteed to voters: Everyone gets a legible ballot; access to help with voting procedures; safe voting without intimidation or threats; lines will remain open if there are people in them when they close; replacement ballots; voting assistance; sample ballots; instructions on how to use voting equipment; equal access to voting; a uniform statewide vote counting system; and a promise to resolve complaints efficiently.
Voting "NO" would leave things the way they are.
QUESTION 6 - RENEWABLE ENERGY PROMOTION INITIATIVE
Voting "YES" would amend the Nevada Constitution to require energy companies to increase the total renewable energy in the state to 50% by 2030 through gradual increases in renewable output.
Voting "NO" would leave things the way they are.
I've tried to provide as much information as possible. All the information here and more can be found on Ballotpedia as well as the Nevada Secretary of State's site. If you have any questions, ask in the comments and I or someone else will try to help you.
Let me know if I'm missing anything, if any of the elections I included are not actually relevant to Washoe County, and if you think there's anything else important I should add. Also let me know if there's any spelling errors, party affiliation mistakes or omissions, and whether the question explanations are understandable. I want to keep this up to date and as informative as possible up to the election.
And don't forget to vote and stay safe! It's never been easier or more important to let your voice be heard!
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2020.08.20 17:47 LearningIsListening A not-so-brief rundown of letters ‘W-Z’ in Jeffrey Epstein's 'Little Black Book'

Below is a rundown of letters ‘W-Z’ under Epstein's contacts. Last year, I wrote about letters A-C. You can check that out here (https://www.reddit.com/conspiracy/comments/cpis3n/a_brief_rundown_of_the_first_ten_pages_of_jeffrey/).
I also wrote about letters D-F on July 5, 2020. You can check that out here (https://www.reddit.com/conspiracy/comments/hlrba8/a_notsobrief_rundown_of_letters_df_in_jeffrey/).
I posted letters G-I on July 13, 2020. You can check that out here (https://www.reddit.com/conspiracy/comments/hqko0y/a_notsobrief_rundown_of_letters_gi_in_jeffrey/).
I posted letters J-L on July 15, 2020. You can check that out here (https://www.reddit.com/conspiracy/comments/hrq9bg/a_notsobrief_rundown_of_letters_jl_of_jeffrey/).
I posted letter M on July 20, 2020. You can check that out here (https://www.reddit.com/conspiracy/comments/huw0yt/a_notsobrief_rundown_of_the_letter_m_in_jeffrey/).
I posted letters N-Q on July 27, 2020. You can check that out here (https://www.reddit.com/conspiracy/comments/hyudbz/a_notsobrief_rundown_of_the_letters_nq_in_jeffrey/). There are some misspelled names. Epstein entered their names like this.
I posted letter R on July 29, 2020. You can check that out here (https://www.reddit.com/conspiracy/comments/i0aqxd/a_notsobrief_rundown_of_the_letter_r_in_jeffrey/)
I posted letter S on August 7, 2020. You can check that out here (https://www.reddit.com/conspiracy/comments/i5orop/a_notsobrief_rundown_of_the_letter_s_in_jeffrey/)
I posted letters T-V on August 13, 2020. You can check that out here (https://www.reddit.com/conspiracy/comments/i9dxwk/a_notsobrief_rundown_of_letters_tv_in_jeffrey/)
I have bolded some of the more interesting connections and information, but there could be much more that I overlooked. I hope something here strikes an interest in someone and maybe we can get more investigations out of this. Please, if you know anything more about any of these people than what is presented here, post below. I am working off of the unredacted black book found here: https://www.coreysdigs.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/Jeffrey-Epsteins-Little-Black-Book-unredacted.pdf
W
Wachtmeister, Eric: Swedish Internet entrepreneur. He was the founder of the now defunct social media website, A Small World. The Weinstein Company, Robert Pittman, and Alexander von Furstenberg were all heavy investors and are all listed in Epstein’s black book (check out previous threads for further information). Early in his career, Wachtmeister was an investment banker who worked for Rothschild & Co. and Lehman Brothers. His father was Count Wilhelm Wachtmeister, a Swedish diplomat, ambassador to the United States, and close friend of George H.W. Bush.
Wagner, David: Not enough info.
Wainwright, Rupert: British movie director and producer.
Waksal, Sam: Pharmaceutical entrepreneur and CEO. Despite the nerdy sounding job description, Waksal hobnobs with celebrities. He dated Martha Stewart’s daughter, is a friend of Ronald Perelman’s ex-wife, and counts Mick Jagger among his friends (https://www.nytimes.com/2002/01/24/business/for-imclone-drug-entrepreneur-a-past-of-celebrity-and-notoriety.html). In 2002 and 2003, Waksal pleaded guilty to securities fraud, bank fraud, obstruction of justice, perjury, conspiracy, and wire fraud. He was sentenced to seven years in prison in 2003. He was released in 2009.
Wallace, Mike: Television journalist best known for his role as lead correspondent on the news program 60 Minutes. Longtime 60 Minutes executive producer Jeff Fager, was forced to step down from his position after Ronan Farrow’s article in The New Yorker that mentioned Fager’s sexual misconduct (https://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/as-leslie-moonves-negotiates-his-exit-from-cbs-women-raise-new-assault-and-harassment-claims) towards Sarah Johansen, an intern at the time (now a producer) who said that the atmosphere of 60 Minutes was like that of a “boy’s club.” Epstein hosted a reception for Wallace at his NYC mansion back in 1997 (https://www.thedailybeast.com/jeffrey-epstein-had-his-own-lodge-at-interlochens-prestigious-arts-camp-for-kids-in-michigan). Wallace can be seen in this photo (date uncertain, but must have been 1991 or earlier) with Robert Maxwell (Ghislaine’s father) and Donald Trump (https://twitter.com/rudyhavenstein/status/1162119147746029568).
Walters, Barbara: Famous television personality/broadcast journalist known for 20/20, The View, and berating Corey Feldman for trying to “damage an entire industry” when he came out against pedophilia in Hollywood (https://pagesix.com/2017/10/18/barbara-walters-faces-backlash-after-corey-feldman-clip-resurfaces/). Walters goes way back with Ghislaine and her family, as she swam around the same social circles as Ghislaine’s father, Robert Maxwell (https://www.newyorksocialdiary.com/this-was-then-malcolm-forbes-70th-birthday-part-i/). Here is a picture from Steve Forbes’s 70th birthday party (https://www.gettyimages.com/detail/news-photo/robert-maxwell-barbara-walters-and-merv-adelson-news-photo/81525793) that shows Barbara walking just behind Robert Maxwell. Barbara is pictured here (https://pagesix.com/2020/07/02/pre-arrest-ghislaine-maxwell-with-her-famous-friends/#7) with Ghislaine and some others (7th picture down). We can only wish her the most agonizing of deaths.
Ward, Kevin: A 34-year veteran of the NYPD who was eventually promoted to Borough Commander. Currently the Vice President of Security and Operations for Bryant Park Corporation. Received a Master’s Degree from Harvard, which is extremely rare for a law enforcement official. It’s odd that Epstein would have three different telephone numbers for such a decorated member of law enforcement. Interesting.
Warner, Ozzie: No info found.
Warnford-Davis, Ms Mandy: The former sister-in-law of Ghislaine’s brother, Kevin. Kevin and his wife, Pandora, divorced after more than 20 years of marriage. Mandy is Pandora’s sister. She works as a lawyer in London.
Wasserman, Casey & Laura: Casey is an entertainment and sports agent executive. Grandson of Hollywood mogul and mafia-linked Lee Wasserman. Laura Zifren is Casey’s wife. She is a movie music supervisor. Casey and Laura both appear on Epstein’s “Lolita Express” flight log (https://archive.org/stream/EpsteinFlightLogsLolitaExpress/Jeffrey-Epstein-Flight-Logs-in-PDF-format_djvu.txt) during the infamous Africa trip which featured the likes of Bill Clinton, Kevin Spacey, and Chris Tucker. Casey donates a lot of time and money to the Clinton Foundation and considers Bill Clinton to be a close friend and his philanthropic “mentor” (https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/bill-clinton-casey-wasserman-reveal-590405). The Wassermans have donated between $10 and $25 million to the Clinton Foundation (https://www.clintonfoundation.org/contributors?category=%2410%2C000%2C001+to+%2425%2C000%2C000). The Wassermans have set up a charity called The Wasserman Foundation through which they donate money to a number of different causes, including several children’s groups (http://www.wassermanfoundation.org/giving/).
Wassong, David: Managing Director for Soros (yes, that Soros) Fund Management who has worked for Soros for over 20 years (https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-10-01/soros-spins-out-private-equity-team-pledging-up-to-2-billion). Here’s a lovely picture (https://www.gettyimages.com/detail/news-photo/david-wassong-managing-director-of-soros-fund-management-news-photo/129267700?adppopup=true) of Wassong with Ghislaine Maxwell from 2011. There’s nothing weird about it except for Ghislaine’s eye-catching earrings, which bare a striking resemblance to pedophile symbolism (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3560069/The-symbols-pedophiles-use-signal-sordid-sexual-preferences-social-media.html). David’s father, Dan, was a chronic sexual harasser of his secretaries (https://www.nytimes.com/1995/08/05/nyregion/a-sexual-harasser-his-friends-don-t-recognize-the-description.html). Perhaps sexual deviancy runs in the family.
Wastnage, Lucy: Wife of David Tang. Already listed earlier under ‘Tang, Mr David and Lucy Wastnag.’ Copy and pasted from my ‘T-V’ thread… David was a Hong Kong businessman who founded the Shanghai Tang fashion chain and several restaurants that attract the elite. Tang was a philanthropist who was involved in several charities, including Youth Outreach (YO), a charitable organization started in Hong Kong by Reverend Peter Newberry. This charity’s goal was to help at-risk youths (http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/hkedition/2017-09/15/content_32018378.htm). Tang was considered one of the most well-connected people in London. He and his wife, Lucy, counted Prince Andrew, Naomi Campbell, Sarah Ferguson, the Duchess of York (Prince Andrew’s ex-wife), Kevin Spacey, the Duke of Marlborough, and Mick Jagger among their friends (https://www.standard.co.uk/lifestyle/lucy-tang-on-top-the-highs-and-lows-of-a-party-girl-6540808.html). Tang vehemently defended Prince Andrew in 2011 when his relationship with Epstein was made public (https://www.standard.co.uk/lifestyle/theyve-been-tang-oed-sir-david-tang-sets-the-record-straight-6383974.html). Two years later, Ghislaine celebrated her 51st birthday at China Tang, David’s restaurant at the Dorchester Hotel. Despite the backlash Prince Andrew received for counting Epstein among his friends, he attended Ghislaine’s birthday, along with former Labour minister Shaun Woodward and wife Camilla, the Earl and Countess of Derby, Dorrit Moussaieff, the diamond heiress/wife of the president of Iceland, Tamara Beckwith, and John Eliasch, multi-millionaire boss of sports firm Head. Every single one of those people appear in Epstein’s contacts. Epstein had 16 phone numbers, two email addresses, and three street addresses listed under David and Lucy’s names. David Tang died in 2017.
Waterman, Felicity: Model and actress who was a client of Elite Modeling Agency, along with Epstein/Maxwell pals Naomi Campbell and Heidi Klum and many other famous models.
Watson, Victoria: Secretary at De Cadenet Motor Racing Limited (https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/officers/9iGn2N_d0fDUZjAwXR1KFgM4qLU/appointments), a company owned by former race car driver Alain de Cadenet, who was listed earlier in Epstein’s black book.
Webb, Veronica: Supermodel. Former Victoria’s Secret (Les Wexner) model.
Weidenfeld, Lord: Founder of Weidenfeld and Nicolson publishing company. Weidenfeld (1919-2016) was a tremendous supporter of Israel and Oxford University. Weidenfeld was close friends with the Rothschilds. For more info on Weidenfeld’s deep-rooted connection with the Rothschilds and Israel, check out this wonderful Youtube video (https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=368&v=N-0ZTc42PnU&feature=emb_logo). It’s very well-researched and connects all the dots. Other high-ranking friends of Weidenfeld included German Chancellor Angela Merkel and former U.S. Secretary of State (and should-be war criminal) Henry Kissinger.
Weinberg, Jason: Top Hollywood talent manager who represents some of the biggest names in movies and television. Weinberg held his 50th birthday at a restaurant in Easthampton, NY (https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/rambling-reporteharvey-weinstein-katie-holmes-more-flock-east-hamptons-palm-restaurant-jason-weinb). Attendees included Harvey Weinstein and actress Uma Thurman, the ex-fiance of ARK Academy founder and possible pedophile and child trafficker, Arpad Busson. Weinberg has been pictured with Peggy Siegal, the publicist who helped Epstein get into elite parties after he was convicted of procuring an underage girl for prostitution. They likely know each other because they were both trained by legendary Hollywood publicist Bobby Zarem.
Weinstein, Bob: Bob is Harvey Weinstein’s brother and a top movie producer and Hollywood executive. Bob has denied any knowledge of his brother’s seemingly endless sexual harassment charges and has publicly rebuked Harvey. Bob has been accused of harassment by Amanda Segel, a female showrunner (https://variety.com/2017/tv/news/bob-weinstein-sexual-harassment-1202592165/).
Weintraub, Harriet: Founder of public relations firm HWPR (http://hwpr.com/about-us/). Was once in business with Epstein enabler Peggy Siegal (http://orbmagazine.com/the-orbitepeggy-siegal-is-no-longer-the-owner-of-the-peggy-siegal-company/).
Westheimer, Ruth Dr: Better known as Dr. Ruth, the popular sex therapist and TV personality.
Weymouth, Mrs Lally: Senior associate editor of The Washington Post. Eldest child of Katherine Graham, the publisher who ran her family’s newspaper, The Washington Post, from 1963-1991. Lally is best known for throwing huge bipartisan parties at her house in the Hamptons. This article (https://nypost.com/2017/07/10/why-ordinary-americans-hold-politicians-and-media-in-contempt-all-in-one-hamptons-party/) does a great job of detailing who goes to these parties (ex: Ivanka Trump and Jared Kushner partying with George Soros, Soros partying with David Koch, etc) and the fact that behind closed doors, the same people who publicly insult each other from both sides of the aisle, are actually friends and just laughing at us for believing their theatrics. AGAIN, THE WHOLE IDEA OF PARTISANSHIP IS COMPLETE BULLSHIT. STOP ALIGNING WITH ONE SIDE. IT’S US VS. THEM. THAT’S IT.
White, Somers: Former model and advertising executive. Married to Jonathan Farkas, heir to the Alexander’s department stores fortune. Named to the Commission on Presidential Scholars by Donald Trump in 2019. Pictured here (https://www.gettyimages.co.uk/detail/news-photo/amy-fine-collins-suzanne-johnson-ghislaine-maxwell-somers-news-photo/1169681593?adppopup=true) with Ghislaine Maxwell.
White, Victoria: Former wife of Lord Gordon White, Texas businessman Tom O’Gara, and famed Hollywood producer Robert Evans.
White, Michael: Likely the theatemovie producer or the British journalist who was the associate editor of The Guardian until 2016 and a regular commentator on BBC. Could be either one.
White O’Gara, Victoria: See Victoria White above.
Whitworth, Alan & Wendy: Wendy Whitworth is a managing editor with ties to Ghislaine and her family. She was managing editor of Remembering for the Future: The Holocaust in An Age of Genocide, an assortment of Holocaust-centered articles, which was released in 2001. Ghislaine Maxwell’s mother, Elisabeth, was the editor-in-chief of the publication. Ghislaine and her sisters, Isabel and Christine, are listed as financial sponsors and committee coordinator (https://link.springer.com/content/pdf/bfm%3A978-1-349-66019-3%2F1.pdf). The honorary president of the publication is Elie Wiesel, the famous authoHolocaust survivor who also appears in Epstein’s book and was also accused of sexual harassment. I believe her husband Alan is an economic adviser, but I’m not entirely sure.
Wiatt, Jim: Former CEO at William Morris, a major talent agency.
Wienberg, Anouska & Mark: Anouska is a hotelier and interior designer. Her husband, Mark, is a financier who co-founded J. Rothschild Assurance, which later became St. James’s Place Wealth Management, along with Jacob Rothschild (https://www.gettyimages.com/photos/lord-weinberg?mediatype=photography&phrase=lord%20weinberg&sort=best). Mark was the honorary treasurer of the National Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Children (NSPCC) and still had a role as one of the Vice Presidents as of 2012 (https://www.nspcc.org.uk/globalassets/documents/annual-reports/nspcc-annual-report-2012.pdf), making this the 12 billionth connection between known pedophile and child trafficker Jeffrey Epstein and the NSPCC.
Wiesel Dr Eli and Marion: Wiesel was a famous author, Holocaust survivor, and Nobel Peace Prize winner, but he also supposedly sexually harassed a teenager at a charity event (https://www.newsweek.com/elie-wiesel-me-too-account-690891). Wiesel had longstanding ties to the Maxwell family due to their mutual interest in writing about the Holocaust (https://www.nytimes.com/2013/08/09/business/media/elisabeth-maxwell-widow-who-reinvented-herself-as-holocaust-expert-dies-at-92.html), (https://link.springer.com/content/pdf/bfm%3A978-1-349-66019-3%2F1.pdf). Marion is also a Holocaust survivor and was Elie’s wife.
Wigram Lionel and Lydia: Lionel is a producer who has worked on the Harry Potter films and several Guy Ritchie movies. Lydie is his wife.
Wigram, Lionel: See above.
Williams Alexandra & Nick: Alexandra is the daughter of Michael Heseltine, who was previously listed in Epstein’s ‘black book.’ Michael Heseltine is a British businessman and politician who served in various roles in government for British PMs Margaret Thatcher and John Major. Heseltine was a friend of Robert Maxwell, Ghislaine’s father. Heseltine invested in Conservative Parliament member Harvey Proctor’s business after Proctor was forced to resign after it was revealed he had sexual relationships with and took nude pictures of male prostitutes aged 17-21 at his home (source: https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/members-interests-top-tories-lose-on-proctors-shop-the-retailer-1445666.html). At the time, it was illegal to have same-sex relations with prostiutes under the age of 21. Her siblings, Annabel and Rupert, were listed in Epstein’s book as well. Check out the G-I thread for more info on them. Nick is her husband and the owner of Holloway’s auctioneers.
Williams-Ellis, David & Serena: David is a world-renowned British sculptor. His ex-wife, Serena, is an interior designer.
Willis, Rebecca: Not sure. Could be a climate change/environmental researcher in the UK.
Wilmot-Sitwell, Alex & Fi: Alex is a banker who was CEO of UBS Investment Bank and headed Bank of America Merrill Lynch’s businesses across Europe until 2018. Bank of America Merrill Lynch, incidentally, was the “largest corporate sponsor” for the super shady ARK Academy (https://arkacademy.org/node/51721) under Wilmot-Sitwell. ARK Academy, founded by Arpad Busson (listed in Epstein’s book - read more on him here: https://www.reddit.com/conspiracy/comments/cl34ju/arpad_busson_billionaire_businessman_or_possible/), could very well be a system of schools used for child abuse and child trafficking. Caroline Fiona Marr is Alex’s ex-wife.
Wilson, Carter: Barely any info found. Her name is Carter Wilson Hailey. This was her mother (https://www.dignitymemorial.com/obituaries/harrisonburg-va/margaret-wilson-6505891). Despite the family names/history, I couldn’t find anything on who Carter Wilson actually is.
Windisch Grazot, Manfred: The Windisch-Graetz family comes from a high nobility bloodline. Manfred, considered a prince, takes care of the management and finances of Elitaliana, the oldest Italian helicopter company (https://www.arbiter.it/articolo/il-guardaroba-di-manfred-windisch-graetz/). Member of the Order of Malta (https://www.smomembassytoslovenia.org/heliambulance-blessed-by-the-holy-fathe).
Windsor-Taylor, Tim & Helen: Helen is a member of the Royal Family. Her father is Prince Edward, Duke of Kent, who is the first cousin of Queen Elizabeth II. Helen is a patron of CLIC Sargent, a children’s cancer charity (https://web.archive.org/web/20110723085754/http://www.clicsargent.org.uk/Aboutus/Mediacentre/Latestnews/Midsummerpartyraises400000). Her husband, Tim, is an art dealer.
Winn, Steve: Wynn is a billionaire Las Vegas hotel tycoon. Prince Harry was a guest of Wynn’s at his Encore resort. Served as the finance chair of the Republican National Committee from 2017-2018, but had to resign from that post and his position as CEO of Wynn Resorts due to dozens of allegations of sexual misconduct (https://www.newsweek.com/steve-wynn-claims-he-cant-punished-sexual-harassment-claims-because-he-no-longer-company-1472164) by his employees. Wynn and his wife (listed earlier in Epstein’s black book under ‘Hissom, Andrea’) are close friends of Donald and Melania Trump (source: https://www.pressreader.com/uk/scottish-daily-mail/20120901/281904475353844).
Winston, Elizabeth: Not sure. Best guess is a Texas-based conservationist.
Wipple, George: Entertainment and society television journalist.
Wolper, Carol: Author and screenwriter who has also written for Vogue magazine, where Epstein has countless connections.
Wong, Andy: Hong Kong financier and socialite. Hosted a Chinese New Year party in 2002 attended by Prince Andrew (https://www.tatler.com/article/lady-victoria-hervey-defends-duke-of-york-and-fled-epstein-apartment) where the theme was ‘Eyes Wide Shut’ (https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/meet-the-wongs-1529160.html). Here’s are some pictures from that party (https://www.gettyimages.co.uk/detail/news-photo/prince-andrew-hong-kong-fanancier-andy-wong-and-his-wife-news-photo/104171074 ; https://www.gettyimages.co.uk/detail/news-photo/sir-dai-llewelyn-amd-masked-girl-hong-kong-fanancier-andy-news-photo/104170961 ; https://www.shutterstock.com/editorial/image-editorial/chinese-new-year-party-hosted-by-andy-wong-and-wife-patti-at-the-reform-club-london-britain-26-jan-2002-375881ah). Here is a link with more pictures (https://www.rexfeatures.com/set/375881) from the party. Many Epstein contacts appear in these photos and also regularly attend the Wongs’ annual Chinese New Year parties. Buzz Aldrin (suspected upper echelon freemason) attended the party as well.
Wong, Theodore: Hedge fund manager. Founder of Constellar Capital LLC. Former managing director at Credit Suisse, a Swedish-based investment bank where Epstein had several contacts. Member of the Sunflower Children's Foundation and St. Jude’s Hospital (https://www.bloomberg.com/profile/person/7519446), two charities dedicated to sickly children.
Woodall, Trinny: Former drug addict socialite and friend of the wealthy and elite (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-1216159/The-drug-addict-friends-haunt-Trinny-Woodall.html) who is now a British TV presenter and owner of makeup brand TRINNY LONDON.
Woods Emily & Carrie: Cary Woods is a movie producer. His ex-wife, Emily, is the chairman of J. Crew.
Woodward, Alexa: California-based attorney.
Woodward, Shaun & Camilla: Former British Member of Parliament (MP) and Secretary of State for Northern Ireland. Shaun is a good friend of Esther Rantzen, an English journalist and television presenter who founded ChildLine, a charity promoting child protection. Incidentally, Rantzen ignored allegations against Jimmy Savile, the notorious pedophile, celebrity, and Royal Family confidant. Rantzen also had an affair with Nicolas Fairbairn, the Scottish politician who was posthumously accused of chronic child abuse and has been linked to Elm Guest House, where politicans (allegedly) had sex with drugged up children (https://www.heraldscotland.com/news/13174992.former-judges-shock-over-qc-paedophile-ring-allegations/). Camilla is Woodward’s ex-wife of 28 years and daughter of former Conservative MP and supermarket heir Tim Sainsbury. Since their divorce, Shaun has entered a relationship with Luke Redgrave, a Hollywood camera operator.
Worcester, Marq & Marc of: Henry Somerset, 12th Duke of Beaufort and his ex-wife, Tracy. Henry is an English peer and landowner. Tracy is a former actress.
Wyatt, Jim: See Jim Wiatt (above).
Wyatt, Steve & Cate: Steve is an oil heir and the former lover of Sarah Ferguson, Duchess of York (Prince Andrew’s ex-wife). Ferguson has always seen Steve as her true love and even went away on vacation with him while she was still with Prince Andrew (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-4512442/Fergie-reunited-former-lover-broke-heart.html). Cate is Steve’s ex-wife.
(No ‘X’ last names)
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Yamani, Mai: Anthropologist, scholar, and author who has been a consultant of international banks such as Goldman Sachs, oil companies like Shell and BP, and foreign governments.
Yariv, Zghoul: Israeli venture capitalist.
Yates, Andrew (piggy): Features editor at the Daily Mail. Went to school with Ghislaine Maxwell, but said that he hadn’t seen her in over a decade when he found out his name was in Epstein’s contacts.
Young Toby: A British social commentator and former director of the New Schools Network, a charity which helps set up free schools in England. He is also an associate editor at Quillette, an online science magazine. In 2011, Young wrote an article defending Prince Andrew and others who are friends with the likes of Epstein, saying that they are not responsible for their friends actions (https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/status-anxiety-like-prince-andrew-i-stand-by-my-dodgy-mates-). He was suspended from Groucho, a private members club in London, when he admitted to selling and using cocaine there (https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1361435/White-powder-scare-at-the-Groucho.html). This flickr page reveals the connection between Toby Young’s New Schools Network and possible pedophile/child trafficker Arpad Busson’s ARK Academy schools (https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/49407330397).
Younger, Tracy & Lee, Greg: No info found.
Yugoslavia Dimitri: Prince Dimitri is a gemologist and member of the Royal House of Yugoslavia. Pictured here (https://www.townandcountrymag.com/society/tradition/a30222833/christina-oxenberg-instagram-patreon-memoi) with Ghislaine Maxwell and Prince Andrew’s cousin, Christina Oxenberg. Brother of Michael and Serge (below).
Yugoslavia, Prince Michel of: An investment executive and former real estate broker. He is also a member of the Knights of Malta. Brother of Dimitri (above) and Serge (below)
Yugoslavia, Serge de: Prince Serge of Yugoslavia. Recently became a father at the age of 54 (http://royalmusingsblogspotcom.blogspot.com/2018/03/a-son-for-prince-serge-of-yugoslavia.html). Brother of Dimitri and Michael (above).
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Zacks Gordon: American businessman who was a financial and Middle Eastern policy adviser to George H.W. Bush during his presidency.
Zales, Alexi: No info found.
Zangrillo Paige & Bob: Robert Zangrillo is a venture capitalist and real estate developer. He has come under fire for a college admissions scandal in which he paid $250,000 so that his daughter could get into USC. Routinely throws parties that attract the likes of the Kardashians, Snoop Dogg, the Hadid family, and other celebrities/wealthy people (https://www.dirt.com/moguls/real-estate/bob-zangrillo-house-los-angeles-1203330956/).
Zawauri, Waleed: Zawawi is on the board of HSBC Bank of Oman. Listed in the Paradise Papers (https://offshoreleaks.icij.org/nodes/80029327) - not to be confused with the Panama Papers - as someone with offshore accounts.
Zecher Bibi and Adrian: Adrian is a hotelier who founded Aman Resorts. Bebe is his wife.
Zeff Mark: Interior designer who helped renovate Epstein’s New York mansion.
Zelier, John: Founding and Managing Member of Hudson Housing Capital, a housing tax credit syndicator. Former Managing Director of Lehman Brothers.
Zevi, Dino & Rosi: Dino is an art dealer.
Zilkha, Bettina: Arts, entertainment, and fashion journalist for Forbes magazine. Photographed with Ghislaine Maxwell here (https://www.gettyimages.co.uk/detail/news-photo/ghislaine-maxwell-and-bettina-zilkha-attend-holly-petersons-news-photo/1169681633) and here (https://www.gettyimages.com/detail/news-photo/bettina-zilkha-suzanne-ircha-and-ghislaine-maxwell-attend-news-photo/660049824) and here (https://www.gettyimages.ie/detail/news-photo/bettina-zilkha-and-ghislaine-maxwell-attend-private-news-photo/590659890)... well, you get the point. She is a fixture in New York’s high society social scene as she is also an heiress to her father’s financing fortune.
Zipp, Brian: Investment banker. Zipp is a former Senior Economist with the U.S. Treasury Department. Later became a Managing Director at Lehman Brothers.
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2020.08.14 15:32 Purple-Tatters Satanist, or something else? Introductory reading list for all related Left Hand Paths

Updated 10/24/2020 - added films

ACADEMICS AND OUTSIDERS

• The Devil’s Party Satanism and Modernity by Faxneld and Petersen: an objective look into the history of Scandinavian Satanism before LaVey, the Satanism of LaVey, as well as Setianism, Luciferianism, and the Sinister Tradition.
• In Pursuit of Satan, the Police and the Occult by Hicks: with the help of Zeena LaVey this book investigates the justice system during the Satanic Panic.
• The Invention of Satanism by Dyrendal, Lewis, and Petersen: an academic look into modern Satanism and Satanic identities, which includes 3 massive studies on the latter.
• Deconstructing the Iconography of Set by Ian Taylor: vastly beats out Te Velde's work as the best, most in depth work on Set to date.
• Lords of the Left Hand Path by Dr. Stephen Flowers: explains the entire history of the LHP tradition across the globe. He himself is LHP but this is a very academic work.
• Images of Set by Joan Lansberry: beautiful recreations of images of Set from history with explanations of his true nature outside of the Osirian / Solar mythologies. Or her amazing free site here: http://www.joanlansberry.com/setfind/setfind.html
• The Sky Religion in Egypt, Its Antiquity and Effects by G.A. Wainwright: likely the best insight into the pre-historic stellar religion in Egypt and Africa.
• The Command to Look by William Mortensen: inspiration behind the Law of the Trapezoid and how imagery impacts the psyche.
• Creation and Chaos by Beal and Scurlock: questions the interpretations of the Chaoskampf myths presented by Hermann Gunkel.
• Kingship, Struggle, and Creation by Rackley: looks at the Chaoskampf myth in history.

THEISTIC / ESOTERIC SATANISM

• The Satanic Bible 50th Anniversary ReVision by Dr. Michael Aquino: a comprehensive and in-depth guide into Aquino’s philosophy.
• The Satanic Rituals by Anton LaVey and Dr. Michael Aquino: an introduction into Satanic Greater Black Magic from the pre-75 Church of Satan. Essays and rituals.
• The writings of Diane Vera: one of the main pioneers of theistic Satanism in the internet age.
• The writings of Venus Satanus: another famous Satanist through the internet.
• Synagogue of Satan by Stansislaw Przybyszewski: likely the first codified Satanic text; presents a comprehensive duo-theistic Satanic world view.
• The Diabolicon by Dr. Michael Aquino: a LHP take on paradise lost, coined the usage of the term “Black Flame”.
• Infernal Geometry by Toby Chappell: looks at sacred geometry from an esoteric LHP/Satanic perspective.

ATHEISTIC SATANISM

• The Satanic Bible by Anton LaVey: the standard staring text for atheistic Satanism
• The Satanic Scriptures by Peter Gilmore: essays by the Church of Satan High Priest Peter Gilmore.
• The Satanic Witch by Anton LaVey: an introduction to Satanic Lesser Black Magic
• The Devil's Notebook by Anton LaVey: a book of essays by LaVey on numerous topics, including his ideas on the trapezoid.

SETIANISM

• Mindstar by Dr. Michael Aquino: which is an introduction to his take on Setian philosophy.
• Ancient Egyptian Myths and Legends by Spence: a guide to the beliefs and stories of Ancient Egypt.
• Behold Set: Prince of Darkness, Exploring the Mysterious God by Ryan Scott (me): an in depth academic and esoteric look into the beliefs of various kinds of Setian, the history of Set, the religion compared to similar traditions, and the pyramid texts. Now available
• Temple of Set v I and II by Dr. Michael Aquino: looks at the history of the ToS and contains an amazing and extensive appendix of ToS writings.
• Mysteries of the Temple of Set by Don Webb: a former ToS High Priest explains the basics of the Temple.
• Set the Outsider by Don Webb and Judith Paige: includes many articles from numerous authors on the true nature of Set in Egyptian religion.
• Overthrowing the Old Gods by Don Webb: Webb’s and Aquino’s commentaries on Crowley’s Book of the Law, plus more essays.

LUCIFERIANISM & ROMANTICISM

• Cain: A Mystery by Lord Byron: a closet play in which Cain and Lucifer travel the cosmos and discuss metaphysics.
• The Works of Jeremy Crow: probably the biggest name in Luciferianism today.
• Visions of the Nightside by Temple of the Ascending Flame: a compilation of authors with both essays and rituals.
• Marriage of Heaven and Hell by William Blake: one of the most classic romantic works in favor of Lucifer.
• Revolt of the Angels by Anatole France: tells the story of the angels who rebeled again their unjust creator.

TYPHONIAN TRADITION

• The Dark Lord by Peter Levenda: clearly explains the ideas of Kenneth Grant and the Typhonian Tradition, as well as their connection to the works of H. P. Lovecraft.
• The Works of H.P. Lovecraft: works of science/horror-fiction which greatly inspired Kenneth Grant and has interesting connections to the works of Crowley (see: The Dark Lord by Levenda)
• Seven Faces of Darkness: Practical Typhonian Magic by Don Webb: investigates the role Set played in the Greek Magical Papyri as Typhon, and provides a great amount of ritual work.
• Stairway to Heaven by Peter Levenda: explains and investigates ascension mythology throughout history and in the modern western tradition.
• The Works of Kenneth Grant, successor to Crowley's tradition and founder of the Typhonian interpretation.
• The Simon Necronomicon: while a well known creation of the 20th century and not a mad Arab, it's power is infamous all the same.
• Necronomicon Gnosis by Asenath Mason: both a look at and practical guide to Lovecraftian magic.

THELEMA & HERMETICISM

• The Book of the Law: the prince of darkness' holy text from 1904.
• Magick Without Tears by Crowley: the best look at his views on magic from the man himself.
• Living Thelema by David Shoemaker: great concise introduction to all things classic Thelema.
• The Brotherhood of Luxor: history on the first such order as well as a ton of their inner works.

DRACONIANISM

• Apophis Special Edition by Michael Kelley: includes the titled text and several of his others, and presents a full guide to his Draconian Tradition.
• Dragon Book of Essex by Andrew Chumbley: a full ritual book of Draconian magic and an entire new initiatory system of 14 points known as the “Crooked Path”.

GERMANIC TRADITION

• Fire and Ice by Dr. Stephen Flowers: looks at the works of the Brotherhood of Saturn which was formerly a pre-LaVeyan Satanic order.
• Black Runa by Dr. Stephen Flowers: looks at the Germanic tradition, the myth of the Holy Grail, and the LHP nature of Odin as a Prince of Darkness.
• Book of Mephisto by Asenath Mason: presents a “Faustian Tradition” of Black Magic rooted in the Faust myth of Mephistopheles.

ACOSMIC LHP

• Liber Isfer by Lucas N: Draconian magic for those who still identify with Set.
• The Book Of Sitra Achra by NAA 218 (?): an extremely in depth take on the Qlipoth, while this gets associated with ONA and Anti Sematism the book actually starts by openly acknowledging it's from the Hebrew tradition, utilizes Hebrew, etc.
• Demons of Acosmic Satanism by Frater Ikkoris.

ANTI SATANISTS who are still worth a read

• History of the Devil and the Idea of Evil by Paul Carus, which traces Satan through history from a Christian perspective.
• Jeffery Burton Russell's whole saga on the history of Satan, which includes many fascinating takes on his evolution.

FILMS

• Imaginarium of Doctor Parnassus
• Snyder's Watchmen Ultimate Cut and Man of Steel Trilogy
• LotR and Star Wars
• Prisoners
• Nocturnal Animals
• Fight Club
• Gods of Egypt
• Nightcrawler
• Big Fish
• Phantom of the Opera (2004)
• Residue
• Dracula (1992)
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2020.08.05 06:34 Pawspawsmeow Who would win in a fight- Emma’s boyfriends edition

Emma Nelson, she’s loved and lost. But which one of her boyfriends have those hands? The stats:
Sean- made a kid go deaf with those hands, fought Jimmy, was in a gang, was into drag racing, was in the army
Spinner- also fought Jimmy, got expelled, dated Paige, Darcy, and Manny so he can put up with anything, had a fight club where he beat up a bunch of Lakehurst kids, had a Mohawk at one point, probably owns the Dot
Chris- is a DJ, likes hats
Damien- dated through Emma’s friend group, cute but annoying
Kelly- probably stoned right now
Peter- did meth, did very creepy things with his camera, but was there for Darcy, worked at the Dot
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2020.06.08 09:25 tc182 Can't Hardly Wait Actors who also played in Buffy The Vampire Slayer

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2020.05.25 16:54 Inuma Dear Obama... No Scandals, right? A look into the King of the Democratic Party and the chess game within

Zero. Zip. Zilch.
Nada. None...
You don't own none of this in being the Greater Evil along with your unseen scandal but you're Teflon, right?
You're the Kingmaker and worked with the establishment to give us Russiagate for the past three years.
I mean, you did better than the Republicans. They actually held the government hostage because of their economics beliefs. You held the government hostage for THREE. YEARS. Over Hillary losing to a game show host.
But okay, homie... You got nothing. Comey's just a crook, Hillary's a crook, and Holder is a crook. We got nothing on you.
So before we take the king, we need to show all the pawns that had issues before we see checkmate for you.
Victim Pawns - Michael Flynn and Tulsi Gabbard - Military personally targeted by the Obama administration for anti-imperial positions. Michael Flynn was calling out the MIC while also calling out the damage of American foreign policy in Syria which created the Russiagate hysteria.
Seth Rich - At this point, there's more "there there" than there is with Russia hacking the DNC. Seth made a sacrifice to blow the whistle on corruption within the DNC and they worked desperately to cover it up. Not only was he murdered, the Awan brothers spied on Congress under Debbie Wasserman Schultz and got away with it. And the FBI lied about him right along with Donna Brazile. And why did the DNC get paid from his murder? Go figure... Russia didn't cause all this.
Shawn Lucas - Though undermined, Shawn served DWS a summons and was killed soon after. He's not forgotten, only under the shadow right along with Seth.
For Tulsi, her stepping down from the DNC in 2016 made her a permanent enemy of Hillary Clinton. So much so, she has had to sue for defamation when Hillary called her a Russian Asset with no proof but an assertion. Nevermind her high security clearance or Hillary's debacles as Secretary of State in Libya or Afghanistan, it's particularly for her anti-war foreign policies.
Taking down Michael Flynn with the FBI's lies was the goal. The Indictment was a lie
FBI pawns - Christopher Steele, Cody Shearer, Syd Blumenthal and Bruce Ohr - Christopher Steele went to Russia, collected dirty messages about Putin and gave it all to Bruce Ohr. Cody Shearer and Syd are part of Hillary's smear campaign. Steele was paid by the Clintons and the FBI covered it up while working for Fusion GPS through his wife, Nellie Ohr. As you work your way up, you see a lot of spooks which I already talked about before.
FBI Rooks - Peter Strzok, Lisa Paige, and Robert Mueller - What people don't realize is that Peter Strzok screwed up royal. His texts became public and we saw the collusion between the FBI and against Flynn and others to support Hillary. This is the norm for the FBI anyway in picking favorites. They hate Trump. They thought Russia invaded the election. Mueller was the clean up man to fix this mistake. Yet he and Lisa Paige screwed up royal here by supporting Hillary. There was no collusion with Russia with regards to Trump and even Strzok, working on keeping Hillary out of prison and putting Trump into prison, stated there was no "there there".
Establishment bishops - Joe Biden and Adam Schiff - Joe Biden worked to get a prosecutor fired and has been working to get elected through election fraud. The reason for his focus on the Ukraine is because his son Hunter Biden was being protected through Biden's corruption.
Adam Schiff knew that Crowdstrike had no evidence for three years and is protecting his assets in the Ukraine such as an arms dealer heavily involved with an American coup in overthrowing an American president. Moon of Alabama has more:
Russigate was a false story, invented by the CIA chief John Brennan with support from MI6. The Steele dossier was recognizable as an obvious fake as soon as it was published. But the FBI still used it. To find evidence of collusion between the Trump campaign and Russiagate the crooks at the top of the FBI went as far as to make false sworn statements to the FISA court. It did not help.
Democratic Party Queen - Hillary. Rodham. Clinton. I could spend pages on her alone. And I have. So read those here
Point being, bitter that she lost to a game show host, Hillary enacted this revenge plot along with the help of Obama and Brennan who are next.
Kings - John Brennan and Barack Obama - Put these two in the same room and you'll get very similar policies. Obama went along with the policies of John Brennan who destroyed Iraq, Libya, and Afghanistan, while working to overthrow Syria.
John Brennan is the mastermind of the Russiagate hoax. The lies of the CIA pushed the Russiagate narrative on all TV channels for the past 4 years. It was John Brennan that pushed the dossier. It was John Brennan that colluded with MI6 on this Russian narrative.
Stefan Halper features prominently in the plot. All-but-officially outed by the government as a CIA source, the aging academic had contact with at least four members of the Trump campaign. Halper’s job of connecting targets with Russians, however, dates back to January 2014, when he worked at Cambridge University alongside Sir Richard Dearlove, the former director of the British intelligence service MI6, and Christopher Andrew, the official historian for the British counterintelligence group MI5.
It was John Brennan wanting to take down Michael Flynn:
In other words, Flynn, was likely set up because he was preparing to audit John Brennan and the intelligence community as part of his role as national security advisor to President Donald Trump.
And Obama let this happen. The King decided to give the CIA free reign over the Democratic Party and this is the mess he'd made. Hillary getting off because of the Rooks. When they fell, the queen is still in trouble of being taken off the board. The pawns are mainly gone.
The King is being surrounded by the opposing side. Lefties fed up with the Democratic Party, right wingers calling out the liberal hypocrisy, the internal machinations becoming more desperate as the CIA-Democratic Alliance is being exposed.
All that's left is the King on the board. The one that facilitated the worst aspects of the CIA, allowed through the Bush era foreign policy, and didn't help the masses while pushing for two warmongers known as Hillary and Biden.
When the fall of Obama comes, it will be a day to remember. There's many people falling as the criminal investigation of Russiagate continues. But know that it was a false story pushed by Obama and Brennan to avoid dealing with the fact that they lost to a game show host by rigging a primary against Bernie Sanders and allowing their own failed candidate to win.
Checkmate.
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2020.05.02 23:03 nirbateman Looking for wants

Hey guys, I accumulated quiet a bit of wants and I would like to find most or all of them, so if you have one or more of those, I would love to hear from you! You can PM me here.
Audio wants
Assassins 1992, London Anthony Barclay -- Balladeer, Paul Bentley -- Pres. Gerald Ford, Cathryn Bradshaw -- Lynette (Squeaky) Fromme, Michael Cantwell -- John Hinckley, Jack Ellis -- Leon Czolgosz, Michelle Fine, David Firth -- John Wilkes Booth, Louise Gold -- Sara Jane Moore, Henry Goodman -- Charles Guiteau, Paul Harrhy -- Giuseppe Zangara, Ciaran Hinds -- Samuel Byck, Sue Kelvin -- Emma Goldman, The Paul Bentley -- Proprietor, Gareth Snook -- James Blaine, Kevin Walton -- David Herold *Soundboard

Camelot - 1/5/63 OBC Closing Night Julie Andrews (Guinevere), Robert Goulet (Lancelot), Richard Burton (Arthur), Roddy McDowal (Mordred)

A Chorus Line - 5/23/75 New York Renee Baughman (Kristine Urich), Kelly Bishop (Sheila Bryant), Pamela Blair (Valerie Clark), Wayne Cilento (Mike Costa), Kay Cole (Maggie Winslow), Ronald Dennis (Richie Walters), Patricia Garland (Judy Turner), Ron Kuhlman (Don Kerr), Nancy Lane (Bebe Benzenheimer), Baayork Lee (Connie Wong), Priscilla Lopez (Diana Morales), Robert LuPone (Zach), Cameron Mason (Mark Anthony), Donna McKechnie (Cassie Ferguson), Don Percassi (Alan DeLuca), Michel Stuart (Gregory Gardner), Thommie Walsh (Bobby Mills III), Sammy Williams (Paul San Marco), Clive Wilson (Larry)

A Chorus Line July 12, 1975 ~ Broadway Donna McKechnie (Cassie), Robert LuPone (Zach), Kelly Bishop (Shelia), Sammy Williams (Paul), Priscilla Lopez (Diana), Thommie Walsh (Bobby), Baayork Lee (Connie), Wayne Cilento (Mike), Patricia Garland (Judy), Don Percassi (Al), Renne Baughman (Kristine), Michael Stuart (Greg), Pam Blair (Val), Cameron Mason (Mark), Nancy Lane (Bebe), Ronald Dennis (Richie), Kay Cole (Maggie), Ron Khulman (Don), Clive Clerk (Larry)

A Chorus Line July 25, 1975 ~ Broadway Renee Baughman (Kristine Urich), Kelly Bishop (Sheila Bryant), Pamela Blair (Valerie Clark), Wayne Cilento (Mike Costa), Kay Cole (Maggie Winslow), Ronald Dennis (Richie Walters), Patricia Garland (Judy Turner), Ron Kuhlman (Don Kerr), Nancy Lane (Bebe Benzenheimer), Baayork Lee (Connie Wong), Priscilla Lopez (Diana Morales), Robert LuPone (Zach), Cameron Mason (Mark Anthony), Donna McKechnie (Cassie Ferguson), Don Percassi (Alan DeLuca), Michel Stuart (Gregory Gardner), Thommie Walsh (Bobby Mills III), Sammy Williams (Paul San Marco), Clive Wilson (Larry)

A Chorus Line April 24, 1976 ~ Broadway Robert LuPone (Zach), Clive Clerk (Larry), Ron Kuhlman (Don), Kay Cole (Maggie), Wayne Cilento (Mike), Baayork Lee (Connie), Michael Stuart (Greg), Donna McKechnie (Cassie), Kelly Bishop (Sheila), Thommie Walsh (Bobby), Nancy Lane (Bebe), Patricia Garland (Judy), Ronald Dennis (Richie), Don Percassi (Al), Renee Baughman (Kristine), Pamela Blair (Val), Cameron Mason (Mark), Sammy Williams (Paul), Priscilla Lopez (Diana)

A Chorus Line - 3/31/79 London closing night Petra Siniawski (Cassie), Geoffrey Webb (Zach), Wendy Baldock (Sheila), Graham Turner (Paul), Diane Langton (Diana), Linda Williams (Val), Leslie Meadows (Bobby), Jeffery Shankley (Al), Jo-Anne Robinson (Kristine), Richard Lloyd-King (Richie), Liz Bagley (Connie), Mark White (Mike), Judy Gridley (Judy), Nina Caie (Bebe), Susan Claire (Maggie), Lance Aston (Don), Peter Barry (Mark), Christopher Molloy (Greg), John Chester (Larry), Martin Baker (Roy), Thom Booker (Butch), Rachel Izen (Tricia), Peter Loury (Tom), June Ingrahm (Lois), Juliet Naylor (Vicki), Tracie Hart (Liza), Carla Farnsworth Webb (Paula), Julie Collins (Wendy)

A Chorus Line September 29, 1983 ~ Broadway Donna McKechnie, Ann Rienking, Cheryl Clark, Vicki Fredrick, Deborah Henry, Angelique Ilo, Wanda Richert, Ann Louise Schaut, Pam Sousa (Cassie), Eivind Harum, Joe Bennett (Zach), Kelly Bishop (Sheila), Sammy Williams, Tommy Agulair, Rene Clemente, Steve Crenshaw, Drew Geraci, Wayne Melendandri, Evan Pappas, George Pesaturo, Sam Viverito, Timpthy Wahrer (Paul), Priscilla Lopez, Chikae Ishikawa (Diana), Thommie Walsh (Bobby), Baayork Lee, Jennifer Ann Lee (Connie), Wayne Cilento (Mike), Patricia Garland, Sandahl Bergman (Judy), Don Percassi, Scott Plank (Al), Renne Baughman, Kerry Casserly (Kristine), Michael Stuart, Justin Ross (Greg), Karen Jablons, DeLee Lively, Mitzi Hamilton (Val), Cameron Mason, Timothy Scott (Mark), Terri Klausner (Bebe), Ronald Dennis, Gordon Owens (Richie), Kay Cole (Maggie), Ron Khulman, David Thomé (Don), Clive Clerk (Larry), The Current New York Company, The International Company, The National Company, The Bus & Truck Company, The Las Vegas Company, The Chicago Company and the Foreign Companies A gala performance featuring almost every cast member from every major production since 1975. Became the longest running musical in Broadway History on this date, and would hold that title until 2000 SOUNDBOARD

Evita London July 1978 Elaine Paige (Eva Perón), David Essex (Ché), Joss Ackland (Juan Perón), Siobhan McCarthy (Mistress), Mark Ryan (Magaldi) (Not the one with the last track patched from the album)

Evita 1980-01-22 – West End, Prince Edward Theatre, London, UK Elaine Paige (Eva Peron), John Turner (Peron), Gary Bond (Che)

Evita 1980-04-05 – West End, Prince Edward Theatre, London, UK Marti Webb (Eva Perón), Gary Bond (Ché), John Turner (Perón), Mark Ryan (Magaldi), Siobahn McCarthy (Perón's Mistress)

Follies February 20, 1971 ~ Boston (First Preview) Dorothy Collins, John McMartin, Gene Nelson, Alexis Smith, Yvonne DeCarolo Musical Numbers with some dialogue, Highlights Only.

Follies April 1972 ~ Broadway (Opening Night, Colonial Theatre, Original Broadway Production) Alexis Smith (Phyllis), Dorothy Collins (Sally), Gene Nelson (Buddy), John McMartin (Ben), Yvonne DeCarlo (Carlotta), Ethel Shutta (Hattie), Fifi D'Orsay (Solange), Justine Johnson (Heidi).Follies April 5, 1972 (Matinee) Young Phyllis — Alexandra Borrie;Young Ben — John Johann; Dmitri Weissman — Edwin Steffe (understudy); Emily Whitman — Camila Ashland; Theodore Whitman — Ted Lawrie; Christine Crane — Jan Clayton; Kevin — David Roman; Willy Wheeler — Donald Weissmuller; Meredith Lane — Marion Marlowe; Sandra Donovan — Sonja Levkova

Follies September 1972 ~ Los Angeles Janet Blair (Sally), Alexis Smith (Phyllis), Edward Winter (Ben), Gene Nelson (Buddy), Yvonne DeCarlo (Carlotta Campion), Ethel Shutta (Hattie Walker), Justine Johnston (Heidi Schiller), Mary McCarty (Stella Deems), Fifi D'Orsay (Solange LaFitte), Marti Rolph (Young Sally/Young Heidi), Suzanne Rogers (Young Phyllis), Kurt Peterson (Young Ben), Harvey Evans (Young Buddy), Camila Ashland (Emily Whitman), Ted Lawrie (Theodore Whitman), Helon Blount (DeeDee West), Sonja Levkova (Sandra Donovan), Terry Saunders (Meredith Lane), Jan Clayton (Christine Crane), Patrick Spohn (Vincent), Jayne Turner (Vanessa), Edwin Steffe (Dimitri Weissman), Michael Bartlett (Roscoe), John J. Martin (Max Deems), Joel Craig (Willy Wheeler), Roy Barry (Kevin), Candace Cooke (Roscoe's daughter), Jacqueline Payne (Young Hattie), David Evans (Young Vincent), Margot Travers (Young Vanessa), Joseph Nelson (Major-Domo), John Grigas (Chauffeur)

Follies July 1977 ~ Milwaukee, MI Dorothy Collins (Sally), Anne Jeffreys (Phyllis), Jack Washburn (Ben), Ted Lawrie (Buddy), Jill Corey (Carlotta Campion), Dorsey Vogt (Hattie Walker), Janet Baxter Peltz (Heidi Schiller), Honey Sanders (Stella Deems), Jo Fischer (Solange LaFitte), Alice Cannon (Young Sally), Kathy Taylor (Young Phyllis), Kevin Daly (Young Ben), Frank Root (Young Buddy), Marianne Challis (Young Heidi), Julie Jenner (Emily Whitman), Betty Wragge (Thea Whitman), David Curry (Vincent), Irma Curry (Vanessa), Paul Albrecht (Dimitri Weissman), Clyde Laurents (Roscoe), Cris Groenendaal (Max Deems), Joe Billone (Kevin), Gary Barker (Chauffeur), Jeanne Krempp (Young Carlotta), Diane Nicole (Young Hattie), Mib Bramlette (Young Stella), Judith Ann Conte (Young Solange), Ruth Anne McCoy (Young Emily), Jan Wahl (Young Thea)

Follies 1985 ~ Manchester Mary Millar (Sally), Josephine Blake (Phyllis), Kevin Colson (Ben), Bill Bradley (Buddy), Jeannie Harris (Carlotta Campion), Chili Bouchier (Hattie Walker), Betty Benfield (Heidi Schiller), Meg Johnson (Stella Deems), Monica Dell (Solange LaFitte), Liz Izen (Young Sally), Debbie Snook (Young Phyllis), Stephen Hale (Young Ben), Paul Burton (Young Buddy0, Meryl Richardson (Young Heidi), Shirley Greenwood (Emily Whitman), Bryan Burdon (Theodore Whitman), Peter Honri (Vincent), Marie Lorraine (Vanessa), David Scase (Dimitri Weismann), Joseph Powell (Roscoe), Les Want (Max Deems), Lorraine Croft (Young Stella), Mitch Sebastian (Young Vincent), Kim Ismay (Young Vanessa), Linda Jane Holmes (Francesca), David Morgan-Young (Kevin), Anthony O’Driscoll (Chauffeur), Anthony Thomas James (Photographer)

Guys and Dolls Revival 1992 ~ Broadway Peter Gallagher (Sky Masterson), Nathan Lane (Nathan Detroit), Faith Prince (Miss Adelaide), Josie de Guzman (Sarah Brown), Walter Bobbie (Nicely-Nicely Johnson), Eleanor Glockner (Agatha) SOUNDBOARD

Gypsy - Broadway - 1974 Angela Lansbury, Zan Charisse, Rex Robbins

Hello Dolly - Broadway - December 27, 1970 - Closing Night Ethel Merman, Jack Goode, Russell Nype, June Helmers, Danny Lockin, Georgia Engel

Hello Dolly - Broadway - 1978 Carol Channing (Dolly Gallagher Levi), Eddie Bracken (Horace Vandergelder), Florence Lacey (Irene Molloy), Lee Roy Reams (Cornelius Hackl), Robert Lydiard (Barnaby Tucker), Alexandra Korey (Minnie Fay), K.T. Baumann (Ermengarde), Michael C. Booker (Ambrose Kemper), Johan Anania (Rudolph), P.J. Nelson (Ernestina)

Into the Woods March 17 1993 - Sydney Judi Connelli (Witch), Simon Chilvers (NarratoA ComposeMysterious Man), Tony Sheldon (Baker), Geraldine Turner (Baker's Wife), Pippa Grandison (Cinderella), Dean McRae (Jack), Melissa Jaffer (Jack's Mother), Sharon Millerchip (Little Red Ridinghood), Phillip Quast (Cinderella's Prince/Wolf), D. J. Foster (Rapunzel's Prince), Leonie Cambridge (Rapunzel), Deborah Wells (Cinderella's Stepmother), Jenny Vuletic (Florinda/Snow White), Jacquline Linke (Lucinda/Sleeping Beauty), Susanne Towers (Cinderella's MotheGranny)

Into the Woods March 28, 2012 - Baltimore Lauren Kennedy (Witch), Jeffry Denman (Narrator), Erik Liberman (Baker), Danielle Ferland (Baker's Wife), Jenny Latimer (Cinderella), Justin Scott Brown (Jack), Cheryl Stern (Jack's Mother), Dana Steingold (Little Red Ridinghood), Nik Walker (Cinderella's Prince/Wolf), Britney Coleman (Rapunzel), Robert Lenzi (Rapunzel's Prince/Cinderella's Father), Alma Cuervo (Cinderella's StepmotheGrandmotheGiant), Nikka Lanzarone (Florinda), Eleni Delopoulos (Lucinda), Jeremy Lawrence (Steward/Mysterious Man) Nice to have an audio of Danielle Ferland (the original Little Red Ridinghood on Broadway) as the Baker's Wife. She's amazing in "Moments in the Woods"!

La Cage Aux Folles - London - July 24, 2009 Philip Quast, Roger Allam, Nolan Frederick, Ben Deery, Alicia Davies, Tracie Bennett, Iain Mitchell, Abigail McKern, Adrian Der Gregorian, Scott Spreadbury, Matt Krzan, Nicolas Cunningham, Darren Carnall, Gary Murphy, Ben Bunce, Leanne Harwood, Robert Maskell

Little Shop Of Horrors The Comedy Theatre London 12th August 1985 Seymour - Barry James, Mushnik - Harry Towb, Audrey - Claire Moore, Orin and others - David Burt, Crystal - Nicola Blackman, Ronnette - Dawn Hope, Chiffon - Shezwae Powell, Audrey II - Gary Martin Notes: The track with "The Meek Shall Inherit" contains the following scene which includes "Somminex" and "Somewhere That's Green (Reprise)."

A Little Night Music January 23, 1973 ~ Boston (Opening night) George Lee Andrews, Len Cariou, Despo, Patricia Elliott, Beth Fowler, Hermione Gingold, Laurence Guittard, Garn Stephens, Glynis Johns, Judy Kahan, Mark Lambert, Barbara Lang, Victoria Mallory, Teri Ralston, Benjamin Rayson, Elaine Tomkinson, Gene Varrone

A Little Night Music October 17, 1995 ~ London Judi Dench (Desirée Armfeldt), Siân Phillips (Madame Armfeldt), Laurence Guittard (Fredrik Egerman), Joanna Riding (Anne Egerman), Brendan O'Hea (Henrik Egerman), Lambert Wilson (Count Carl-Magnus Malcolm), Patricia Hodge (Countess Charlotte Malcolm), Issy van Randwyck (Petra), Claire Cox (Fredrika), Di Botcher, Louise Reckon-Richards, Kate Dyson, Tim Godwin, Sylvia Griffin, Stephen Hanley, Paul Kynman, Joe Maddison, John Owen-Jones, Ernestina Quarcoo, Morag McLaren

Oliver! January 1965 ~ Chicago Ronny Kroll (Oliver Twist), Davey Jones (The Artful Dodger), Robin Ramsey (Fagin), Judy Bruce (Nancy), Danny Sewell (Bill Sykes), Alan Crofoot (Mr. Bumble), Bram Nossen (Mr. Brownlow), Dawna Shove (Widow Corney), John Miranda (Mr. Sowerberry), Ruth Maynard (Mrs. Sowerberry)

On the Town 1971 ~ Broadway Ron Husmann (Gabey), Jess Richards (Chip), Remak Ramsay (Ozzie), Donna McKechnie (Ivy Smith), Phyllis Newman (Claire De Loone), Bernadette Peters (Hildy), Tom Avera (Pitkin), Marilyn Cooper (Lucy Schmeeler), Fran Stevens (Maude P. Dilly)

Promises, Promises - 1968 Broadway soundboard Jerry Orbach (Chuck Baxter), Jill O'Hara (Fran Kubelick)

Rebecca Caine: No, No, Cosette - London - March 25, 2012 Rebecca reveals her dark side. Music by Blitzstein, Vernon Duke, Turnage, Ravenhill/Offenbach, Kern, Porter, Novello, Yeston, Coward and more. With Nathan Martin on piano.

Rocky Horror June 22, 1991, London Anthony Head (Frank N Furter), Craig Ferguson (Brad Majors), Zalie Burrow (Janet Weiss), Tim Whitnall (Riff Raff), Kate O'Sullivan (The Usherette/Magenta), Vicky Licorish (Columbia), Ivan Kaye (Dr. Scott/Eddie), Adam Caine (Rocky), Peter Bayliss (The Narrator), Ian Good (Phantom), Julia Hampson (Phantom), Penelope McGhie (Phantom), Paul Reeves (Phantom), Stephen Thiebault (Phantom), Mark Turnbull (Phantom) *Final performance

Sunday in the Park with George 1990 West End Phillip Quast (George), Maria Friedman (Dot/Marie), Sheila Ballantine (Old Lady/Blair Daniels), Nuala Willis (Nurse/Harriet Pawling), Michael O'Connor (Franz/Dennis), Nicolas Colicos (A SoldieAlex), Gary Raymond (Jules/Bob Greenberg), Nyree Dawn Porter (Yvonne/Naomi Eisen), Michael Attwell (A Boatman/Lee Randolph), Megan Kelly (Celeste #1), Clare Burt (Celeste #2/Betty), Aneirin Huws (Louis), Di Botcher (Frieda/Elaine), Ellen van Schuylenburch (Woman Looking for a Glove), Barry Atkinson (Man Playing the Horn), Matt Zimmerman (Mr./Charles Redmond), Vivienne Martin (Mrs./Billie Webster), Buffy Davis (A Waitress), Simon Fielder (A Photographer) -Tracked

Sweeney Todd (Broadway Revival: 1989) Bob Gunton (Sweeney Todd), Beth Fowler (Ms. Lovett), Jim Walton (Anthony), Gretchen Kinglsey (Johanna), David Barron (Judge Turpin), Micahel McCarty (Beadle Bamford), Eddie Korbich (Tobias), SuEllen Estey (Beggar Woman), Bill Nabel (Pirelli)

Sweeney Todd - Melbourne, Australia - June 21, 2019 Anthony Warlow and Gina Riley

West Side Story - Scandinavian tour - Copenhagen, Denmark - March 16, 1962 - Soundboard David Holliday (Tony), Jill Martin (Maria), Carole Gray (Anita), Rikki Septimus (Bernardo), Gordon Wales (Riff)

Video wants
Anything Goes London -- July 17, 2004 Sally Ann Triplett, John Barrowman, Martin Marquez, Simon Day, Mary Stockley, Susan Tracey, Rachel Stanley Amazing quality with a lot of close-ups! Almost look like it's a proshot! 2 DVDs

Assassins 12/21/90 ~ New York Victor Garber,Terrence Mann, Jonathan Hadary, Lee Wilkof, Annie Golden, Debra Monk, Patrick Cassidy, Greg Germann From Playwrights Horizons; one head in the way and filmed from very close; upgraded copy with clearer picture and sound; a very nice video A
Into The Woods Nancy Dussault (Witch), Cynthia Sikes (Baker's Wife), Chip Zien (Baker), Kim Crosby (Cinderella), Edmund Lyndeck (NarratoMysterious Man), Robert Westenberg (Cinderella's Prince/Wolf), Ben Wright (Jack), Barbara Bryne (Jack's Mother), LuAnne Ponce (Little Red), Marin Mazzie (Rapunzel), Dean Butler (Rapunzel's Prince), Merle Louise (Cinderella's MotheGranny/Giant), Joy Franz (Stepmother), Kay McClelland (Florinda), Teresa Burrell (Lucinda), Adam Grupper (Steward) Complete recording of Nancy Dussault in the role of the witch. The recording looks like it was professionally shot with one camera, maybe for media purposes. It is completely watchable, but unfortunately there is a decent amount of generational loss. File Format: VOB, 1 Disc

Into The Woods 1989, Broadway Betsy Joslyn, Dick Cavett, Chip Zien, Chuck Wagner, Barbara Bryne, Ben Wright, Danielle Ferland, Kim Crosby Broadway Highlights nicely filmed, about an hour's worth of footage; Cavett was still new and didn’t know all of the lines yet. A little dark at times, but good quality overall! File Format: VOB, 1 Disc

Into The Woods 1993 ~ Wytenshaw, England Caroline O'Conner, Grania Renihan, Glyn Kerslake, Charles Foster, Fenton Gray, Barry James, Di Botcher, Lindsey Dawson Very well filmed, extremely clear video. Almost looks pro shot with nice closeups and good sound A

Into The Woods 1993, Sydney, Australia Judi Connelli (Witch), Simon Chilvers (NarratoA ComposeMysterious Man), Tony Sheldon (Baker), Geraldine Turner (Baker's Wife), Pippa Grandison (Cinderella), Dean McRae (Jack), Melissa Jaffer (Jack's Mother), Sharon Millerchip (Little Red Ridinghood), Phillip Quast (Cinderella's Prince/Wolf), D. J. Foster (Rapunzel's Prince), Leonie Cambridge (Rapunzel), Deborah Wells (Cinderella's Stepmother), Jenny Vuletic (Florinda/Snow White), Jacquline Linke (Lucinda/Sleeping Beauty), Susanne Towers (Cinderella's MotheGranny)

A Little Night Music 1995 ~ London Dame Judi Dench, Joanna Riding, Siân Phillips, Issy Van Randwyk, Patricia Hodge Highlights of this legendary, amazing production from the National Theatre, London; some generation loss but nice video with good sound and some closeups, shaky. B+

Merrily We Roll Along 1981 ~ Broadway (Lonny Price, Jim Walton,Ann Morrison, Jason Alexander) UPGRADED!!! Amazing video considering its age, great sound A

Miss Saigon 1989 ~ London Lea Salonga, Jonathan Pryce, Simon Bowman, Claire Moore, Peter Polycarpou, Keith Burns From the Theatre Royal Drury Lane; Act I is highlights only with an almost complete Act II. Generation loss and spotlight washout but watchable and clear sound B

Nine 1982 ~ Broadway Raul Julia, Anita Morris, Karen Akers Very old, good for its time, picture is grainy, good close-ups Upgraded video with commerical from Anita Morris at start explaining that about her censored scene from the show; better video A

Noises Off 1983 ~ Broadway Dorothy Louden, Victor Garber, Brian Murray, Linda Thornson, Paxton Whitehead, Deborah Rush, Jim Piddock, Douglas Seale, Amy Wright Nicely filmed from the balcony, with occasional heads at the bottom of the frame. Surprisingly good considering it's age, but some slight generational loss. A-

Nymph Errant London -- 1989 Kaye Ballard, Andrea McArdle, Alexis Smith, Larry Kert, Lisa Kirk, Patrice Munsel, Maureen McGovern, Liliane Montevecchi Star-studded London concert presentation of the rarely seen Cole Porter musical. Some slight generation loss, but a very good quality video with excellent zooms.

Rocky Horror Picture Show 1990 Piccadilly Theatre, London. Mary Maddox (Usherette/Magenta), Gina Bellman (Janet), Adrian Edmondson (Brad), Jonathan Adams (Narrator), Edward Tudor-Pole (Riff Raff), Linda Davidson (Columbia), Richard O'Brien/Tim McInnerny (Frank N Furter), Adam Caine (Rocky), Gordon Kennedy (Eddie/Dr Scott), Zalie Burrow, Ian Good, Kate O'Sullivan, Paul Reeves, Stephen Thiebault (Phantoms)

The Music Man 1980 ~ Broadway Revival Dick Van Dyke Camcorder video; some generation loss B

The Three Musketeers 11/17/84 ~ Broadway, Revival Brent Spiner, Ron Taylor, Chuck Wagner, Liz Callaway, Marianne Tatum Nicely filmed from the balcony of this show that closed after just 9 performances. Some generational loss; DVD also includes a TV review by Pia Lindstrom; nice video A-
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2020.04.19 20:08 CozyGhosty It’s Always Snowy in Montreal — Episode 02: ‘Woolie Makes a Snuff Film’ (SCRIPT)

PREVIOUS EPISODE
4:51 PM
On a Friday
Somewhere in Montreal, QC
Fade in — Subway interior
[The zaibatsu are shown standing together, waiting for the metro to arrive. Matt and Pat are engaged in a heated argument while Woolie and Liam stand to the side pretending as if they don’t know them]
MATT: You can’t ACTUALLY believe that, right? You’re fucking with me, surely.
PAT: Believe what you want to believe, man. Just don’t say I didn’t warn you once shit goes down. First Beastars, and now Animal Crossing? In such a precise window of time? Nope, no way that’s a coincidence.
[Matt throws up his hands, exasperated]
MATT: Furries are NOT brainwashing the general population!
PAT: I NEVER SAID IT WAS BRAINWASHING. They’re just—They’re softening us up. Drip-feeding little bits of furry propaganda into pop culture, until all of a sudden, one day, WHAM — Justin Trudeau says it’s legal to fuck dalmatians.
MATT: People have been making furry cartoons and shit for decades and you’re only taking issue with it now?
PAT: That’s the thing, though! They’ve been playing the long con! It all started in the 80’s with Thundercats. Now, that was just them dipping their toes in the water, because those characters were mostly human… but then Redwall happens…TMNT…Space Jam…Zootopia…and now look at us with Beastars: Teenage girls worldwide want to bang that stupid sexy deer wearing the blazer.
MATT: I don’t—
PAT: I mean, you want hard, concrete evidence? Look no further than the Sonic fandom. Tens of thousands of hours have been spent drawing fan-art of Sonic getting impregnated and pissed on! That poor hedgehog has suffered all manner of buggery and cock and ball torture at the hands of his sexually confused, thirteen year old playerbase and did SEGA discourage that behaviour? No, THEY MADE AN OFFICIAL GAME WHERE YOU CREATE YOUR VERY OWN SONIC OC. They knew EXACTLY what they were doing.
MATT: THAT DOESN’T MAKE ANY FUCKING SENSE THOUGH. WHAT COULD THE GOVERNMENT POSSIBLY GAIN FROM TURNING THE WORLD INTO FURRIES?
PAT: Lizard-men.
MATT: …C’mon, man.
PAT: I’m serious. They’ve been biding their time, waiting in the shadows and slowly but surely warming us up to the prospect of living with animal-people. Y’know, some cute comics here, a game there. Then, when they finally integrate with society, we’re meant to welcome them with open arms!
PAT: Well, I’m not falling for it, Matt. Everyone thinks living with anthros would be fun and whimsical, like a Disney movie. Then one day you get in a fender bender and a fucking SHARK fucking WALKS out of the Volvo you just hit! There wouldn’t be enough free space in my pants to handle how much I’d shit myself. Besides, you really want to live in a world filled with sentient horse-men? None of us could ever get a girlfriend again! They have cocks the size of baseball bats! If they learn how to not think all stupid it’s game over for the rest of us. ‘Horseporn.com’ would go from a funny punchline to a harbinger of humanity’s fate.
[Woolie, sensing that the argument is about to devolve into an embarrassing slap-fight, intervenes and attempts to divert attention away from the ongoing discussion]
WOOLIE: SO — Uh, you mentioned Animal Crossing. How about that, huh? There’ve been so many big games coming out lately!
[Just as Woolie says this, three men arrive to stand beside the Zaibatsu on the train platform. Two of the men have hockey jerseys worn atop several layers of polos, each collar individually popped. The third man notably has pink dreads and all designer clothing]
[one of the polo boys smacks Woolie on his shoulder]
MAN #1: AHAHA! Yo, I heard you mention the ‘big game.’ You excited for tonight, bro?
WOOLIE: Uh, I don’t—
MAN #2: DAWG, it’s going to get crazy. McDougall’s been on fire this series, but you KNOW he’s gotta be feeling that tear in his ACL. And with the Scarborough Beavers having such a hella strong defence, that’ll really hurt the team tonight, ‘nam sayin’?
WOOLIE: I think there’s been a—
[the man with the pink dreads stumbles forward, holding a white styrofoam cup with suspicious purple liquid sloshing around inside]
PINK DREADS: Skrr skrrrrr skrrrrr, ayy yuh. Hunnid on my wrist. Brrr. Brrr. Skinny bitches. Hrrrnng.
[One of the other strangers gestures to his unintelligible companion]
MAN #1: That’s the homie, Lil BigPlanet. He said that ‘those four gents look to be an affable sort’ and that he’s ‘interested in hearing your predictions concerning tonight’s sporting event.’
WOOLIE: Yeah, I’m sorry, uh, what was your name?
MAN #1: The name’s Vance Chadrick. My friend here is Tevin — JUST Tevin. And you already met the homie Lil Bigplanet. His real name’s Demetrius but he don’t like to be called that on account of his tragic upbringing.
[Lil Bigplanet ‘Skr skrr skrrrs’ forlornly]
*WOOLIE: Right. Well, Vance, there’s been a misunderstanding. We were actually talking about ‘big games’ in general, not any one particular big game.
TEVIN: Hol’ up… you mean, like, Scrabble or some shit?
WOOLIE: No, like…like VIDEO games…haha.
[Vance and Tevin share a pointed look before bursting out laughing]
VANCE: VIDEO GAMES? ARE YOU FUCKING SERIOUS, BRO?
TEVIN: For a minute there, we thought you were some real ones. Turns out you’re just a bunch of man-children.
VANCE: One time, when I was eleven, my moms bought me a Burger King meal and it came with a free video game demo disc. I didn’t even eat the food, because I was afraid some DWEEB might’ve rubbed off on my fries.
[Tevin reaches out and grabs Woolie by his collar, pulling him closer so they’re face to face]
TEVIN: Just so you know, I’d be saying some real homophobic stuff to you right now if it weren’t for me having grown as a person in the past few years. The old me would have implied that liking video games was ‘gay,’ and in so doing would be implying that being gay made you lesser. BUT I’VE SINCE LEARNED THAT IS NOT THE CASE BECAUSE MY LITTLE BROTHER DAVE GOT MARRIED TO HIS LONGTERM PARTNER JUST LAST SUMMER AND IT WAS AN ENCHANTING EVENING.
VANCE: Yeah, talk your shit, Big Tev! We’re socially conscious bullies, that’s our gimmick!
TEVIN: But I don’t need to judge you by your race, sexual preference or economic status. My counsellor says that’d be a micro-aggression…but he didn’t say anything about MAJOR AGGRESSIONS.
[Tevin lunges forward and punches Woolie right in his solar plexus, doubling him over and bringing him to his knees, wheezing]
[Liam rushes forward to see if Woolie is alright]
LIAM: What the hell, guys?! How can you even hate video game so much when you’re hanging out with a guy named fucking ‘Lil Bigplanet’?
LILBIGPLANET: Ice in my cup, ice on my wrist. Ice on my neck, ice on my bitch…
TEVIN: The homie, Lil BP, says that the name was purely coincidental, and that his lawyers are currently in talks with Sony...He also called you a pussy, bruh.
[The three men step over Woolie’s body and board the metro that just arrived]
TEVIN: It’s been real, nerds. We have a big game to get to, not that you’d know the feeling.
VANCE: YEAH, LATER FAGS.
[Tevin punches Vance in the arm and says ‘We talked about that word, yo.’ as the doors close and the metro speeds away]
[Once the train has long since left earshot, Matt calls after it: “YEAH, YOU BETTER RUN.”]
[Pat goes over to help Liam hoist Woolie to his feet]
PAT: Sorry, man. I would have helped you…but then that would have put ME in danger and I…well, I just didn’t want that.
[Woolie angrily brushes the dirt off his pants and clutches his stomach]
WOOLIE: I’m just so sick of people thinking we aren’t real men because we aren’t into sports.
MATT: I go lawn bowling with my gram-gram sometimes, so don’t group me in with you guys…
WOOLIE: And it’s not like I’m completely clueless! I box a little, y’know? I used to play football! You remember?
PAT: Yeah, you killed that one guy.
LIAM: Killed that guy one time, yeah…
WOOLIE: It’s just—watching sports is so…boring! If they made a sport that was more exciting, maybe we wouldn’t—
[Woolie’s eyes shoot open and he looks at the other guys excitedly]
WOOLIE: What if we just made our own sport?!
PAT: No no no. C’mon. We’ve dabbled in theft and human trafficking but sports is where I draw the line, Woolie. I still have nightmares about gym class. My thighs would rub together and—
WOOLIE: We aren’t the ones that’ll be playing it, dipshit! We CREATE the most radical sport of all time! Then, not only will we have something dope to watch, but people also won’t be able to belittle us for not knowing anything about sports anymore!
PAT: I really don’t think—
WOOLIE: Plus, we’ll make a load of money from it!
PAT: I’ve decided to help you because you are my dear friend. But… we don’t know anything about sports. How’re we going to…make one?
WOOLIE: Sports are just games! Our JOB is literally just playing games! If your typical meathead can understand the intricacies of sports, how hard could it be for us to make one of our own?
TITLE CARD: ‘Woolie Makes a Snuff Film’
INTERIOR: HIGH SCHOOL GYM
[Woolie and Pat are alone in an empty gymnasium. Pat is dressed as he usually is, whereas Woolie is dressed in a weirdly formal tweed suit. Pat is sitting in a fold-up steel chair and Woolie has set up a projector along with several slides]
PAT: So, uh…what’re we doing here, man?
WOOLIE: I’ve spent the past several weeks creating and perfecting the ULTIMATE sports experience. I’ve prepared a small presentation to show you the finished product.
PAT: No, sure and I’m super excited and all but…what’s with the suit?
WOOLIE: Well…figured it’s a big moment, so I dressed up for it.
PAT: …but it’s just the two of us.
WOOLIE: So what? Just—Just don’t worry about the suit, it’s not important.
PAT: I feel like I have to worry about the suit, is the thing. Like, I can’t tell whether you’re trying to intimidate me or if you’re trying to fuck me or…
WOOLIE: That’s not—
PAT: Super weird, just two friends alone in a private meeting, and one of ‘em dresses up like it’s prom night or something. And you have a wife, man. Me and Paige are also doing really well, so…
WOOLIE: Stop—
PAT: And when you and Liam started getting weird I felt like it wasn’t my place to say anything. Like, it’s 2020 and the kids are all about polyamory, but I don’t want to be a part of it, myself.
WOOLIE: JUST LISTEN TO M—
PAT: And I don’t look good in a suit man, trust me. So if that’s like, your thing or whatever, look elsewhere. Last time I shaved my beard off, me and Paige went to dinner and I happened to wear a suit, right? An old lady in our apartment saw us holding hands and she assumed Paige was my mom and that she was bringing me to my bar mitzvah and—
WOOLIE: I’M NOT TRYING TO FUCK YOU. I’M NOT TRYING TO FUCK YOU, PAT. I JUST THOUGHT IT WOULD BE NICE TO WEAR A SUIT FOR ONCE. THIS JOB DOESN’T GIVE US MANY OPPORTUNITIES TO DRESS NICELY AND I JUST WANTED TO WEAR A FUCKING SUIT. YOU DON’T HAVE TO BUST MY BALLS OVER IT. JESUS CHRIST.
[Pat is visibly taken aback by Woolie’s outburst]
PAT: Geez, okay. I’m sorry.
WOOLIE: GODDAMNIT, PAT.
PAT: I’m sorry, do your presentation. I want to hear it. Go ahead. I’m sorry.
[Woolie takes a moment to loosen his tie and rein in his temper]
WOOLIE: Alright, fine, just let me dim the lights…
[Woolie jogs over to the entrance, but finds that the lights can only turn on or off]
WOOLIE: Are you fucking ser— they don’t have a dimmer switch!
PAT: Why would they need a dimmer switch in a highschool, Woolie? They use the gym to play dodgeball and run laps, not host orgies and listen to Sade. I don’t even want to know what you think the climbing ropes are for—
WOOLIE: Fine! I’ll do it in the dark. I’ll do my presentation in the dark wearing a suit like a stupid asshole! Dickhead!
[Woolie shows several slides of popular sports through human history]
WOOLIE: As mankind has progressed…so too has our taste in sports. Over the years, and especially in these modern times, we require more contact, more action, more style, more…stimuli. The goal of this project is to simply cut to the end — to take each ingredient that makes up sports as we know it, and push them as far as we possibly can. I call it…
[Woolie flips over to the next slide, revealing the title and what can only be described as softcore pornography]
WOOLIE: ULTIMA-BRAWL.
[Pat cocks an eyebrow and nods contemplatively, as if he’s saying ‘Alright, you have my attention, cutie’ with his accursed ginger eyes]
WOOLIE: Now, you’re probably wondering: Ultima-brawl? Don’t you mean Ultima-BALL? Wrong! Why? Because balls are for cowards! The only balls you need to concern yourself with are the big, hefty sacks swinging between the legs of our brave combatants, or ‘brawlers’ as they will officially be known.
[Pat sits in stunned silence as Woolie pulls out a strange object from underneath the desk. It is reminiscent of a giant tabletop die and has several brightly flashing coils wrapped all around it]
WOOLIE: We don’t use balls, we use THIS. Balls are too soft. People use balls to play catch with their kids. If you are comfortable throwing an object at your six year old son, chances are it has no place in a real man’s game—
[Woolie slams the object down onto the desk. It emits a solid THUNK sound on contact and releases several crackling sparks of raw electricity]
WOOLIE: No, THIS is the real deal. It is an icosahedron made from hard plastic and it is rigged to shock you if you hold on to it for more than six seconds. Why? No more ball hoggers, that’s why! It is the proverbial ‘hot potato’ brought to life. The Zeus-brawl (we’re calling it the zeus-brawl, by the way) encourages frequent passing and makes for much more smooth, entertaining play.
PAT: That’s—
[Woolie waves him off and wheels out a mannequin wearing a bunch of strange futuristic garments]
WOOLIE: On to uniforms! First things first, take note of the skintight, aerodynamic shorts. It’s really the only article of ‘clothing’ the brawlers will be wearing, apart from their backpacks and their helmets.
[Pat tactfully avoids drawing attention to the fact that the ‘uniform’ looks like a makeshift BDSM outfit, because he knows Woolie is still struggling with accepting that part of himself]
PAT: …Backpacks?
WOOLIE: I’ll get to that in a minute. For now, I want to draw your attention to the fact that there is no shirt — No jersey. That’s because, again, Ultima-brawl is all about cutting the bullshit and pushing all facets of sports-entertainment to their natural conclusions. So we don’t need shirts! We don’t need ‘teams!’ At least—not the teams you’re thinking of. You’ve heard of the term ‘shirts versus skins? Well, I’m proposing...
[Woolie pulls up a new slide, showing a shirtless black man and a shirtless white man wrestling one another]
WOOLIE: Skins versus skins.
PAT: Woolie! You can’t keep trying to incite race wars! This is getting ridiculous!
WOOLIE: But haven’t sports always been about race wars? About who’s ‘City’ is superior? Give me a break. I’m just the first one to be honest about it. The first one to embrace it! Fact is, humans need an outlet to vent their frustrations and I think Ultima-brawl can be that release. A safe place where THE WHOLE POINT is to fight someone else because they’re different than you! That way you get it all out of your system and stop yourself from carrying that hatred into your personal or professional life.
PAT: …Are you serious? Woolie, this is a slippery slope. This is like… how The Purge starts.
WOOLIE: And I’ve made my support for The Purge known in the past, but that’s neither here nor there. Look, am I saying that if I went back in time and made the Germans play the Jewish community in a nice, safe, controlled game of Ultima-brawl that MAYBE things might’ve turned out differently? Who knows? What I am saying is if we get a bunch of Israelis and Palestinians to play a quick match, they might work out their issues and I could have a Nobel Prize coming my way for bringing peace to the east. But enough of that—
[Woolie spins the mannequin around, showing off a high-tech backpack-like device with an LED display]
WOOLIE: This is the Rad-Counter. If there’s one thing that I think sports can take away from video games, it’s that style metres make everything better. Now, each brawler will have their own bike, skateboard, rollerblades etcetera, to ride around the Ultima-court. Said court will of course be littered with quarter-pipes, halfpipes, loops, pits and other obstacles—
WOOLIE: When the brawlers do some rad shit like tricks or combos, the judges will award that brawler and their team style points, as displayed on these backpacks. Cultivating style metre is CRUCIAL because the team leader spends those style points to open the opposing team’s hatch for a few seconds, which is where you throw the zeus-brawl to score. Not a HOOP, that’s what my auntie wears in her ears. Not a NET, that’s what my auntie wears under her wig. A fucking HATCH. A MAN hatch.
WOOLIE: In short, you HAVE to do cool shit in order to open the hatch and score points to win the game. Because every other sport has fuckers that lame it out and shoot layups all game. No, shut up though. You NEED to show off here. You NEED to do combo.
PAT: I—
WOOLIE: And the leader can also choose to spend the team’s rad-points on other perks like dropping weapons into the arena or—
PAT: Woolie.
WOOLIE: What?
PAT: I’ve gotta be honest here, man.
[Woolie looks down and fiddles with his thumbs]
WOOLIE: …Yeah?
PAT: This is…PERFECT.
[Woolie breathes a sigh of relief]
WOOLIE: Phew, okay. Haha, you had me worried there for a minute. And hey, best part is? I’ve already paid for ALL the equipment AND I’ve set up a practice match to show off to potential investors.
PAT: Holy shit! How’d you pay for all that?!
[Woolie’s face pales and he stares blankly into the distance]
SCENE CHANGE — FLASHBACK
[Woolie is shown nervously walking through a creaky old manor. The wallpaper is torn and mold can be seen spreading in a corner]
[Woolie gulps and nervously traverses a long, dark hallway. At the very end of the hall, he knocks on a battered oak door. Dust falls off its surface in small clouds as he raps his knuckles against it]
[the door seemingly opens on its own and Woolie enters the nearly pitch black room. The only thing visible is the silhouette of a bald man in an armchair as he watches a TV stuck on a static screen]
[Woolie opens his mouth to greet his host, but he’s interrupted before he can speak]
PLAGUE: Hello, Woolie.
WOOLIE: H-Hey pla—
[Woolie has to break off his sentence as a strange scent hits his nostrils, causing him to retch and gag on his words]
WOOLIE: What—What is that SMELL, Plague?
PLAGUE: …Man can find all sorts of things out in the woods.
[A stray breeze shuts the door behind Woolie, causing him to startle briefly]
WOOLIE: …Right. Anyway, I—
[A hand shoots out of the darkness and it’s cold, gnarled fingers lock themselves around Woolie’s wrist]
PLAGUE: Talkin’ of smells, you’re smelling awfully nice today, Woolie. Is that [sniff] vanilla body wash I’m detecting? You usually smell nice for me when you want something. Is that it, Woolie? Do you want something from me? Or did you just come to spend some time with your good friend, Plague? No…let me guess. You want some more of my money.
WOOLIE: I—I don’t, it’s— I was just—
PLAGUE: Have you ever choked someone before, Woolie? And I don’t mean choking like a stagnant young couple trying to spice up their private life. I mean, have you ever truly choked another human being before?
WOOLIE: …No.
[the hand moves up to gently hold onto Woolie’s throat, just under his adam’s apple]
PLAGUE: People are always so surprised at how malleable the human body is, in their last moments. We like to think of ourselves as concrete and unchanging, but under the right pair of thumbs we become as clay to a sculptor. If you ever really make an evening out of pressing your hands down on someone, it’s like you aren’t even holding a neck by the end of it. The flesh and the skin become so ruined that all you really have left to hold onto is the vertebrae and the windpipe. It almost feels as if you’re squeezing a sopping wet length of rope. Like you’re a fisherman standing at the edge of a pier, hauling in his morning catch…
WOOLIE: Please, Plague, I— I didn’t mean—
PLAGUE: Oh, you didn’t mean what, Woolie? You didn’t mean—I DON’T FUCKING CARE WHAT YOU MEANT. TAKE YOUR MONEY, WOOLIE. TAKE YOUR WHORE MONEY AND GET OUT OF MY SIGHT.
[The scene changes back to the gymnasium, as Pat snaps his fingers in front of Woolie’s face to break him out of his reverie. Woolie wipes sweat and a stray tear from his face and shrugs pat off]
WOOLIE: Never mind how I got the cash, just be at the rec centre this Friday for the practice match…
[Woolie quickly exits the gym, shaking, as Pat calls after him]
PAT: I’ll be there! And hey, feel better Woolz, alright?
[Once Woolie turns the corner, Pat immediately pulls out his cell, dials a number and holds it to his ear]
PAT: Hey stinky. I’m like 99% sure that Woolie just tried to seduce me…Yeah…What? No, I didn’t do it! It’s Woolie, he’s my friend!...I don’t CARE what you read in your doujins, Paige! That’s super weird. YOU’RE super weird…You’re lucky you’re really hot and you do that one thing with your thumb or I wouldn’t put up with you.
SCENE CHANGE – REC CENTRE — FRIDAY
[Woolie, Pat, Matt, Liam and Paige are all sitting in the bleachers in anticipation for the game]
WOOLIE: Oh man, I’m pumped guys! Like, I’m nervous, sure, but I’m feeling good about this. Is this how all sports fans feel? Maybe we really have been missing out.
PAT: Well, you should be excited man. You earned this. Hey, where did you find all these people anyway? The crew and the players and stuff?
WOOLIE: Oh, I uh, actually don’t know really. While we ironed out the mechanics, I asked Matt and Liam to find playe—sorry, BRAWLERS for us.
LIAM: Yeah, well, turns out a lot of professional athletes were’t interested for some reason…
MATT: Probably a bit cutting edge for most people. Ultima-brawl is too avant-garde of a concept for the common man to comprehend.
PAIGE: Don’t worry though, Woolie. You’ll find your niche. You’ll be like the David Lynch of sweaty man-touching.
WOOLIE: Well…if you couldn’t find any actual athletes, where’d you find the players?
MATT: After we got shut down by them, we asked ourselves: what group of people are the easiest to exploit for your own gain?
ALL AT ONCE: Homeless people.
MATT: Exactly. But again, that didn’t work out because apparently Pat is engaged in some sort of ‘blood feud’ with the entirety of Montreal’s homeless population and they were reluctant to approach us.
PAT: Ugh…I’d have been willing to compromise and not try to cull any of them during the game. Bums need to grow up and learn to put personal feelings aside for the sake of professionalism. It’s no wonder they can’t hold down a job.
LIAM: We’d all but given up on finding anybody, when I had an idea of my own! Prisoners! Yeah, so we just moseyed on down to the penitentiary and bailed a bunch of people out on the one condition that they’d play one game of Ultima-brawl for us, no questions asked.
WOOLIE: Oh…but they’re, like…cool, yeah? They won’t freak out on each other or anything?
MATT: Give us a little credit, man. We didn’t bail out murderers. Just people who got arrested for assault and stuff.
WOOLIE: Assault?!
MATT: Well, we needed to find athletic people, Woolie! Most fit people in jail are in for violent crimes. It isn’t like we could have drafted a bunch of buff pedophiles or something, because buff pedophiles don’t exist! If buff pedophiles did exist, there wouldn’t be any children left.
WOOLIE: But—
LIAM: It’ll be fine! They just got out of jail! You think they’re eager to immediately get thrown back in? Just relax, Woolie.
[the lights in the building go out. Smoke fills the arena and lasers flicker through the clouds]
WOOLIE: SHHH, It’s starting!
[the announcer’s voice echoes throughout the arena. It sounds eerily similar to the announcer from Unreal Tournament]
ANNOUNCER: GOOD EVENING, EVERYONE AND WELCOME TO THE INAUGURAL MATCH OF THE SOON TO BE GREATEST SPORT ON PLANET EARTH, IIIIIIIIT’S UUUUUULTIMA-BRAAAAAWL. BRAWL…Brawl…brawl
[Woolie whoops/shrieks at an uncomfortable volume, tenting visible in his jeans]
[from either end of the arena, the opposing teams emerge from their respective hatches]
ANNOUNCER: COMING IN FIRST, WE HAVE…We, uh…sorry, is this a typo? No? A-Alright. SORRY FOLKS, COMING IN FIRST WE HAVE THE Uh—THE WHITE? TEAM!
[The white team awkwardly shuffles in place, clearly uncomfortable and hoping this isn’t being streamed online because they don’t want to end up in a Huffington Post article or some shit]
ANNOUNCER: AND ON THE OTHER SIDE, WE HAVE…Christ. Seriously? Fine, fine. ON THE OTHER SIDE WE HAVE THE…BLACKS. God…
[The black players approach the centre of the arena on their bikes and skateboards, equally as uncomfortable as the white team]
[Both teams appear to take a moment to talk, shake hands and assure one another that they all think this is equally fucked up]
[Woolie throws popcorn at the brawlers, causing them to break apart]
WOOLIE: NONE OF THAT! BE PROGRESSIVE AND PEACEFUL AFTER THE GAME’S OVER. RIGHT NOW I NEED YOUR SCORN AND MALICE OR THIS WHOLE THING FALLS APART!
[Now that Woolie has caught the brawlers attention, one of the players heads perks up and he gestures at Woolie]
BRAWLER: YO! YOU’RE THAT DUDE FROM A MONTH BACK! C’MERE A MINUTE!
[Woolie, not recognizing the figure, looks to his friends uncertainly. When he’s only met with equally oblivious shrugs he makes his way down the bleachers to speak with the mystery man at the edge of the arena]
WOOLIE: Sorry, do we know each other?
[The man looks confused for a moment before understanding dawns in his eyes and he removes the helmet that had been obscuring most of his face]
[Woolie frowns when he recognizes the man as one of the three strangers that had humiliated him at the metro station several weeks prior]
TEVIN: Before you say anything, I know you’re mad, yo. And… and you should be.
WOOLIE: Yeah, I’m fucking mad, I—wait, what?
TEVIN: Yeah… that night, me and my boys, we…we had one too many to drink. It’s no excuse for our behaviour but…you mentioned video games and it just set me off man. I’m so sorry. Seriously, bruh.
WOOLIE: Even IF you were drunk, how could VIDEO GAMES possibly make you so furious at someone you don’t even know?
[Tevin sighs and gestures to a member of the black team. Woolie can see pink dreads peaking out of the bottom of the brawler’s helmet and he instantly connects the dots]
TEVIN: You remember the homie, Lil Bigplanet? You remember he talked…funny?
WOOLIE: I mean, I saw the lean in his cup so I just figured—
TEVIN: Nah, that wasn’t lean. That was Pepto Bismol. Homie had an upset tummy. No, the reason he talks funny is…Y’see, when he was a kid he was cleaning out his closet and… he dropped a PS3 on his head.
WOOLIE: Like…a PS3 slim or—?
[Tevin now has tears welling up in his eyes]
TEVIN: Nah, one of them original fat bitches they released back in ’06.
[Woolie cringes and hisses through his teeth, looking upon Lil Bigplanet with pity as he stumbles around the arena]
WOOLIE: God, I’m so sorry. I had no idea. At least it wasn’t an original Xbox or he might not be with us.
TEVIN: Nah, you couldn’t have known. It’s just—Me, Vance and Lil BP? We’re like brothers, man. So whenever someone mentions video games now it gets me so mad…and with us drinking that night…
WOOLIE: Hey, don’t even worry about—
TEVIN: No! Like I said, there ain’t no excuse for the way we acted! The next morning…we all felt so guilty we turned ourselves in to the police.
[Woolie is beginning to feel uncomfortable guilt-sweat pool in the bottom of his boxers]
[Tevin grins a great toothy smile at Woolie, warmth and gratitude clear in his eyes]
TEVIN: But then who turns out to make our bail but the guy we wronged in the first place! If that isn’t the lord showing me the way, then I don’t know what is! Bless you for this opportunity, bro! Maybe we all can hang out after the game’s over!
WOOLIE: Y’know, you don’t really HAVE to play, haha…
TEVIN: Please, it’s the LEAST I can do dawg. Wish me luck!
[Woolie walks back to his seat on unsteady feet. Once he sits back down, Pat eyes him warily]
PAT: You okay, man? You look like you’ve seen a ghost.
WOOLIE: Yeah…Hey, you think the game is safe, right? Like, the players won’t get hurt too bad?
PAT: …I mean…
WOOLIE: Oh god, oh fuck—
[Paige leans over and rests her hand on Woolie’s shoulder]
PAIGE: Don’t worry, Woolie. As the voice of reason in the group I took it upon myself to make sure things wouldn’t get out of hand.
WOOLIE: Thank fuck…God…Good. Good, good. What did you do? You talked to the players beforehand? Told them to take it easy?
PAIGE: Nope, I spiked their Gatorade with stuff to mellow them out so that they’ll play nicely.
[Woolie, growing concerned again, cocks his brow and faces Paige directly]
WOOLIE: You spiked—? What did—What did you spike their drinks with? Molly? Xanax?
PAIGE: No, that’s the stuff rappers take and rapper are scary so…
WOOLIE: What the fuck did you put in the Gatorade, Paige?!
PAIGE: Just some bath salts!
[Matt sprays cookie crumbs out of his mouth as Liam’s hand clenches and ruptures his Capri Sun]
[Pat shoves Woolie’s panic-stricken form aside to grip his girlfriend’s shoulders tightly]
PAT: YOU DOSED A BUNCH OF VIOLENT, HALF-NAKED CRIMINALS WITH BATH SALTS?
[Paige looks around at her friends nervously]
PAIGE: Is that…bad? It’s just—baths are so relaxing! So I thought drinking it would feel…relaxing? Like taking a bath!
PAT: PAIGE. FUCK. WHY.
PAIGE: WELL IF IT’S BAD FOR YOU THEY SHOULDN’T HAVE CALLED IT BATH SALTS! IT SOUNDS SO NICE, HOW WAS I SUPPOSED TO KNOW?!
[As the zaibatsu panic and argue amongst themselves, the siren sounds, signalling the beginning of the game]
[Extremely dated, horny european music blasts through the arena as the now-crazed brawlers charge each other on their bikes and skateboards]
[Woolie watches in abject horror as the players brutalize and maim one another, practically frothing at the mouths in their hysteria]
ANNOUNCER: WHITE TEAM HAS AMASSED 2500 RAD POINTS. SHRED-SCALIBUR HAS ENTERED THE ARENA.
[a massive greatsword is dropped in front of the white leader, who immediately picks it up and swipes at one of his own teammates]
LIAM: YOU PUT A FUCKING SWORD IN THE GAME, WOOLIE?!
WOOLIE: It’s—It’s blunt. You can’t really stab someone with it…I—I thought it would be cool, but…God, he’s really bludgeoning people with it. I think I’m gonna hurl, dude—
[Matt slaps Woolie across his face]
MATT: Snap out of it, man! We gotta cut our losses and cheese it before the 5-0 shows up!
[Woolie nods, dazed, and moves to run away with the group when he sees Tevin in the middle of the arena crying over Vance’s bloodied body]
WOOLIE: You guys go without me! I have to save them!
[Instead of protesting, the gang immediately leaves without Woolie because they are all assholes]
[In his haste to reach the arena as fast as possible, Woolie knocks over the remaining Gatorade onto the ultima-brawl, causing it to short-circuit and set a low-hanging banner aflame. The fire quickly spreads and in the time it takes Woolie to dodge the berzerking convicts and reach Tevin, the flames have almost completely engulfed the arena]
TEVIN: Yo, y-you came for us…
WOOLIE: Of course I did. Is he—?
[Woolie gestures down at Vance’s body]
TEVIN: He’s gone, yo. He’s really gone…He was one month away from finishing law school, man…What’re me and Lil Bigplanet going to do without—Wait, where’s the homie Lil Bigplanet?!He was with the Black Team last I saw him…! I gotta find him, yo! I can’t lose them both!
[Woolie looks up and spots Lil BP scoring on his own team and doing a victory dance, seemingly oblivious to the bloodshed around him]
ANNOUNCER: BOTH TEAMS HAVE COLLECTIVELY GAINED 8000 RAD POINTS. YOU KNOW WHAT THAT MEANS, ULTIMA-FANS. RELEASING THE BEAST-QUALIZER.
[Woolie falls back in fear as an air-raid siren sounds and a plate-armoured cape buffalo charges into the arena]
WOOLIE: IS THAT—IS THAT A FUCKING BULL? I DIDN’T EVEN ORDER A BULL. WHO PUT A FUCKING BULL IN THE GAME?
[The buffalo makes short work of the drugged-out criminals, methodically stalking the arena and goring them one-by-one. Finally, it sets it’s eyes on Lil Bigplanet who merely tilts his head and lets out an inquisitive ‘Skrr skrr?’ in response to the buffalo’s attention]
[The buffalo stomps its hooves and charges at the unmoving Lil BP, who waits with open arms as if anticipating a friendly hug]
TEVIN: DEMETRIUS! NOOO!
[Tevin sprints forward and attempts to intercept the blow, but can’t stop the buffalo’s momentum. The buffalo’s horn pierces Tevin’s abdomen but continues rushing forward, impaling Lil BP as well. The two adults corpses throw the buffalo’s balance off and it careens into the arena barrier, snapping its own neck and dying instantly]
[A combination of terror, smoke inhalation and blood loss causes Woolie’s to drop to his knees, and then face flat to the ground, unconscious]
SCENE CHANGE — INTERIOR — HOSPITAL ROOM
[The shot remains out of focus as Woolie opens his eyes, after hearing a disembodied voice call for him]
VOICE: C’mon, buddy. Got someone here who has some questions for you…
WOOLIE: Rmmpgh…
VOICE: [sigh] Bayonetta.
[Woolie’s eyes shoot open and he snaps up to a sitting position as if someone had blasted him with smelling salts]
WOOLIE: What’s—Where am I?
[Woolie’s blurry vision focuses and he takes in his surroundings. He is in a hospital bed, with a nervous looking Pat sitting at his side and an imposing man with an officer’s badge looming over him]
PAT: Hey man, this uh, friendly police officer just has a few small questions for you. I already spoke to him about how WE DON’T KNOW ANYTHING, but he wanted to make sure that you DON’T KNOW ANYTHING, so—
DETECTIVE: Now, settle down, son. You aren’t in any trouble. You’re clearly a victim in all this. This is just procedure. Now, apparently there was some homoerotic cult engaging in blood sports. We ID’d most of the murder victims from the tapes these sickos were filming, but we couldn’t get a clear image of the leaders. Now, clearly, you two aren’t involved—
[Woolie holds up a hand to cut the detective off]
WOOLIE: Hold on. What’s that supposed to mean? We clearly weren’t involved? What’s that about?
DETECTIVE: Well, no offence fellas but you two don’t exactly seem like the sporting type to me.
WOOLIE: We’re sporting! We’re athletic! Where do you get off judging us? For all you know, I could have been the cause of all this!
DETECTIVE: Is that so…
[Pat steps between Woolie and the cop]
PAT: Sorry, officer! My friend is still clearly a little out of it, what with his condition and all. Let me just get a quick word with him—
[Pat roughly pulls Woolie over to the corner of the room and begins angrily whispering with him]
PAT: What the HELL do you think you’re doing? Are you trying to get us arrested?!
WOOLIE: He thinks we’re a bunch of wussies!
PAT: We are a bunch of fucking wussies! I pee sitting down! Who cares? He’s letting us go!
WOOLIE: I can’t, man. Not this time. We’ve fucked up before, but never this bad. So many people died, Pat! That’s on me! Don’t worry, I’ll leave you out of my confession.
PAT: Woolie…
WOOLIE: You know those guys that punched me? They felt so horrible about it they turned themselves in the next day! And now they’re dead because of me…It’s only fair that I follow their example and take responsibility for my actions. Goodbye, Pat…
[Woolie and Pat both approach the detective at once, both speaking over one another until the cop raises a hand to silence them]
DETECTIVE: Now, I was going to let you boys go, but you started acting real cagey just now. So unless you can give me a name to go off of here I’m afraid I’ll have to bring you in for further questioning.
WOOLIE: There’s no need for that, sir. I know who did it. It was m—
PAT: HEY, real quick, before we continue—how bad did you say the sentencing was going to be for those responsible, sir? Five? Ten years?
DETECTIVE: Oh, no no no. This is absolutely life in prison.
[Woolie blanches and sweat begins to drip down his temple]
WOOLIE: L-Life in—
DETECTIVE: Hooo, you betcha’. MULTIPLE life sentences even. No parole. No bail. Nothin.’ Just a cold, lonely cell for the rest of their days.
[Woolie audibly gulps]
DETECTIVE: But never mind that, son. You said you knew who was behind all this...?
[Woolie and Pat share a tense side-eye glance before Woolie turns to face the officer once more]
WOOLIE: So, there’s this guy called SuperBunnyHop—
CREDITS
DIRECTED BY Hidetaka Suehiro
GUEST-STARRING Finn Wolfhard AS Liam Allen-Miller
Peter dinklage AS Patrick Boivin
AND
Zac Effron AS Woolie Madden
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2020.03.31 02:58 caosemeralds Things you feel no one talks about/the show glossed over? (and kinda unpopular opinions)

So this is my first time watching Degrassi TNG from the start. I only watched the 9-12ish (?) seasons as a kid. Basically the Clare/Eli/Alli/Sav/Adam eras. I'm pleasantly surprised!!
I'm only on season 9, so some stuff I haven't seen happen yet, but I don't mind being spoiled. But anyway, to get on with the title of the post:
This is also kinda an unpopular opinions post for me too lol
edit:
do you guys have any unpopular opinions? or anything that just seemed off but was glossed over?
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2020.02.21 18:24 gdelgi [COLLECTION] Evita: from page to screen (various screenplay drafts)

Backstory

Since my Hair compendium post went over so well, I thought I'd share some more stuff that I've picked up over my years of foraging. Today, I start a series on a musical's transition from the stage to script to screen.
Our favorite shows are going to change when they're taken into another medium, be it by large or small degrees; that's the nature of adaptation. It's intriguing to see how multiple people view the same piece, and what makes the final cut as opposed to something else. And it's not even just because of changes in the creative team. On a film adaptation of a big-ticket item made by a major studio, it's common to have several versions going at a time. The commonplace (in the Thirties) practice of assigning different teams of writers to a work has never gone out of style. One just never hears about it because sometimes it takes years to get a film made, and they'll pick one version and not the other for a variety of reasons (typically the usual studio politics and bullshit; sometimes a version will even be written as a prop to force another writer they want on the project to get working, for example).
Tim Rice and Andrew Lloyd Webber's Evita was one such stage-to-screen transfer. Rice and ALW had more control than most when it came to this film, perhaps as a result of seeing how the 1973 JCS went without much direct input from them. (That becomes immediately apparent when one sees some of the final film's ideas -- Eva at her father's funeral in the prologue, for example -- long before 1996, in every draft from 1982 to the final product, regardless of the name on the cover page.) But every adaptor brought different tastes and notions to the story, which made each version its own animal.
At any rate, it went through a lot of stops on the road to the cinema, and I'm happy to share a few of them with you today.

The Ken Russell version

This draft dates from the very first attempts to make Evita into a film, shortly after it opened on Broadway.
After its surprise success (following stories of a troubled out-of-town tryout, its London track record notwithstanding), the show's film rights were the subject of a bidding war; Warner Bros., MGM, Paramount all wanted in. Jon Peters tossed his hat in the ring, offering to guarantee then-girlfriend Barbra Streisand for the lead if he could produce. (Robert Stigwood, hoping to remain the film's sole producer, turned him down when it became clear this was the dealbreaker for Barbra's participation.) EMI Films won the war with a bid of $7.5 million, and names like Elton John and Barry Gibb began to be batted about for Ché, but after a string of box office flops and the Thorn EMI merger, Evita fell by the wayside.
In May 1981, Paramount acquired the rights (with Stigwood as producer), set a budget of $15 million (Stigwood, Rice, and ALW each negotiated a smaller salary in exchange for a higher gross percentage), and, on the strength of their previous mutual success with Tommy, Stigwood hired Ken Russell to direct and write the screenplay.
He proceeded to do the latter without Stigwood, Rice, or ALW's approval; the draft you'll see follows the outlines of the stage production, but establishes the character of Ché as a newspaper reporter. The script also contains a hospital montage for Eva and Ché, in which they pass each other on gurneys in white corridors as she is being treated for cancer, while Ché is beaten and injured by rioters. "Waltz for Eva and Ché" in particular is a scene in typical Russell style, a dream sequence taking place on the barren pampas, with the two surrounded by giant symbols of ruined civilizations and religions, crumbling hopes and dreams -- a fallen swastika, a headless Buddha, a battered eagle from imperial Rome, a rotting cross, a splintered pharaoh, and a rusty hammer and sickle -- which then vanished to be replaced by more familiar concerns, such as polluting smoke, smashed cars, barbed wire, and bleached bones.
Casting began in earnest. They screen-tested all eight of the actresses then playing Eva worldwide, but Russell was unsatisfied. Then Webber's wife (at the time) mentioned that she had seen Karla DeVito on Broadway in The Pirates of Penzance and was suitably impressed. DeVito, with a strong background in the rock world, happened to be in England at that moment shooting music videos for her solo album Is This a Cool World or What? Russell took the chance and screen-tested her at Elstree Studios, and her performance of "Don't Cry for Me Argentina" reportedly brought the room to tears. That is, the room except Tim Rice. Tim, then romantically involved with the original West End Eva, Elaine Paige, considered the film role his girlfriend's exclusive property. Elaine was screen-tested twice, Russell didn't like her, but Tim was unwilling to budge, so pre-production temporarily stalled.
Assured he would be allowed final control of casting, Russell saw other possibilities a year later. Among them, he screen-tested Liza Minnelli (in a blonde wig and period gowns, no less). She was an established film actress, she had the talent, and the star quality oozed from the screen test. To Ken, she was ideally suited to the role. He approached Stigwood with the tape, and was assured his pick would be fairly considered... but now Stigwood, Rice, and ALW all insisted on Elaine when he asked what they thought. Seeing the writing on the wall and that (at least in his perception) Rice's mistress would be shoved down his throat regardless of his opinion, Ken said, "Minnelli, or I'm out." And so they fired him, and Evita went into turnaround (a Hollywood euphemism meaning "for sale -- cheap").
Other directors were approached -- Herbert Ross turned it down to direct Footloose, Richard Attenborough deemed the project impossible, Alan J. Pakula and Hector Babenco declined. One performer campaigning for the title role (we'll talk about her in a minute) tried to interest Francis Ford Coppola, to no avail. And then...

The Oliver Stone version

This is Oliver's draft.
The project began development again in 1987 when Jerry Weintraub's independent studio WEG acquired the rights to Evita from Paramount. Writer-director Oliver Stone, of all unlikely fans of the show, expressed interest in the project and was confirmed to write and direct in April 1988. He traveled to Argentina, visited Eva's birthplace, and met with President Carlos Menem, who agreed to provide 50,000 extras and not to say "boo" about the film's take on its central figure.
Stone even hooked up a lead: Meryl Streep. He, Rice, and ALW met with her at a recording studio in NY to do preliminary dubbings of the score. Stigwood was impressed: "She learned the entire score in a week. Not only can she sing, but she's sensational – absolutely staggering." The link above is to the screenplay that probably entered the picture around this time; after all, a film can't be greenlit without a script, and WEG allocated a $29 million budget around this time, with filming set to begin in early 1989.
Once again, tragedy struck, this time in threes:
  1. The 1989 riots in Argentina put a halt to the shooting schedule owing to concerns about cast and crew safety, which meant scouting for alternate locations in Brazil and Chile before settling on Spain.
  2. Settling on Spain increased the budget to $35 million owing to different contingencies, and unfortunately WEG's films weren't doing so hot at the box office, which meant they couldn't outlay that kind of cash. They dropped the project, and Stone had to seek out a new studio; ultimately, Carolco Pictures was willing to talk.
  3. Unfortunately for Carolco, Streep's star was rising, and she -- or her people -- realized that, as the front-runner, she could make demands. Her asking price grew, and she demanded a pay-or-play contract with a 48-hour deadline. They finally reached an agreement, but at the eleventh hour, Streep pulled out "for personal reasons," and that pulled the plug on Evita. (It's suspected this may have been a ploy for a bigger salary or the other film she was considering fell through, because ten days later she got back to them again still interested in the project, but Stone had already moved on to his next film, The Doors.)
Disney was the next studio to pick up the project in 1990, intending to release Evita under its "adult" label of Hollywood Pictures with Glenn Gordon Caron directing, but the budget mounted quickly past what Disney chairman Jeffrey Katzenberg was willing to spend, and they pulled back. The film changed hands again, this time to producer Andrew Vajna and Cinergi Pictures, and Stone entered the picture again when his frequent partner Arnon Milchan was brought in as co-financier and the head of Hollywood Pictures had a chat with Stone. Antonio Banderas was locked for Ché when the project was at Disney, and in 1994, Stone confirmed Michelle Pfeiffer would be playing the title role. Production was set to begin in 1995 after Stone made Noriega, another film Milchan was financing/producing.
But ah, 'twas not to be... the combined high production costs of Noriega, Evita, and Stone's forthcoming Nixon were giving Milchan agita, he and Stone fought, Noriega never got made, and Stone left Evita that July.

The Alan Parker version

Finally, in December 1994, Alan Parker came in. (Again. After the 1976 concept album release, he'd met with TR and ALW's manager, David Land, asking if they were interested in a film of Evita, only to be told that they wanted to explore its stage possibilities first. By the time the show had opened in the West End and on Broadway, and Stigwood was ready to talk about the movie again, Parker had just completed shooting on Fame and turned it down, saying he "didn't want to do back-to-back musicals." Now the time was right.)
And there was a star interested: Madonna. (Again. She'd been angling for the part as far back as 1986, visiting Robert Stigwood's office dressed in a gown and 1940s-style hairdo to show her interest and trying to get Coppola to the table. When Stone was signed to the project shortly thereafter, she met with him and ALW to discuss her interest, but she requested script approval and discussed personally making alterations to the score. As anybody who knows what ALW's like knows, that made her a no-go. Disney brought her back into the picture when they took over, but that was scuttled when Stone came in and cast Michelle Pfeiffer. But... Pfeiffer had bowed out when she became pregnant with her second child, and Alan Parker was considering Glenn Close. Madonna put on a full-court press, sending Parker a four-page letter explaining why she was right for the project and enclosing her music video for "Take a Bow." Parker said "none of the shit you walked in the door with when you met Oliver Stone, I'm in charge," and Webber insisted on vocal coaching, but she was in. Now the time was right.)
And now, at last, they closed ranks on the final script. There was one final bit of wrangling about the authorship of that script; Parker claimed he had ignored previous drafts of the film and the stage version, preferring to start fresh with the concept album and incorporate whatever TR and ALW wanted from there as it worked with his plans, but Oliver Stone found what he saw as significant contributions of his in Parker's script. A legal dispute and arbitration by the Writers Guild of America resulted in Parker and Stone sharing screenwriting credit. A mixed victory, to be sure, but at least two visions of the film sort of won out in the end.
And that's all they wrote. Enjoy!
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2020.01.21 10:53 CindyMorrisonwatts1 {Discussion} Gothicane Revealed

{Discussion} Gothicane Revealed

Gothicane Revealed

by John and Ronald Garcia
Gothicane was mainly set in an abandoned underground military outpost in the southwest side of Chicago.---(Legal Photo Disclaimer: The photos and art posted here are taken from the Internet Public Domain and Google Images. They are submitted by fans and strangers and are used solely for dramatization. They may not actually be the people, places, and things they are referred to. If there is a complaint regarding any permission of photos or art here, inbox me and I will promptly delete them.)
Gothicane: Separating Fact from Fiction:
There is a place & culture mixed so closely together that they cannot be separated. These are both the same thing with the same name. A culture called Gothicane & a place called Gothicane. There are stories of a trinity of strange cults living in the underground realms there, a direct connection to an ancient house sitting at the bottom of a lake and of a mental and spiritual way of life termed Epistomalic Mediation.
But how much of this is true, and how much is urban mythology? What I will try to do here is separate the real life facts from the fictionalized myths of Gothicane. This is a very difficult thing to do because much of what is thought real about the Gothicane myths and cultures can’t be proven. However, there is much that CAN be proven, so this is what I will focus on.
A Certain Look:
Gothicane was a massive storage facility abandoned by the U.S military during both the first and second world war, but had a reemergence of military activity during the 2nd world war as a place used to build airplane engines. Soon after it was abandoned again and became home to many generations of occult squatters.
Most ironical, it was a place set directly 120 feet below popular shopping mall Ford City and stretched under Chicago daily college, but it residents also called various other Skid Row regions Gothicane as the people and culturalists from there often moved back and forth from these places.
is One of the most alluring facets about Gothicane is how many of its enclaves look. They are creepy homes, underground tunnel ways, storerooms and abandoned theaters, which ironically fit the theatrical style of the culture. However, it was not the settlers there that made the stylized architecture, but the original builders of an age that revered 1920’s and 1950’s art-deco themes.
Photo submitted by P. Reyna__ The Moss room
Checkered tiled floors, arching, Gothic lines, and retro-future-style edges adorned much of the places where Gothicane culture resided. Though most were not kept up, there were sections where residents revamped and restored much of the old elegance and glory of these sanctuaries with astonishing efficiency and skill.
However there was a stark contrast in how they did this. For example; as in many homesteads there, in one area of the same large room, there would be freshly painted walls, polished faucets, and well-kept furniture. While the other parts were kept decrepit, with cracked walls and clear water fissures, meandering like tiny rivers through the cement floors.
Photo submitted by P. Reyna__ The Meet Bench
So while in one section, a person could lay on a comfy bed, turn on a light, read a book, or watch TV. On the other side, a person would have to step over broken marble and bricks, and could look down into flooded cracks and watch small fish dart about in them. The place was not dirty or infested with pests either; it was kept clear of grime and moss.
In the wintertime the place came alive with bizarre, natural lights that filtered from portholes above. Since the wind did not travel downward, even as large snow flakes could be seen swaying along into the lounge halls, it was still warm and comfortable, thanks to a wide variety of heat sources.
Photo submitted by P. Reyna__ Dark Sable in the Meditation Garden
These were mostly powered by electricity, but also from homemade fireplaces and huge, decorative fire pits. As bizarre and eerie as this was, it did provide a mystical environment, especially those places underground that featured year-round Christmas lights along its rooms with limestone fireplaces that heated lavish marble lounges.
Compared to topside dwellings, these were alien-feeling and saturated with a creepiness of sorts for those not used to it. Obviously, this was the opposite for residents of Gothicane, who loved to live large portions of their lives in these abandoned, artsy regions. Despite controversy over Gothicane's living conditions, it did physically symbolize and reflect the schizophrenic nature of their culture in many subtle ways.
The Facts: What is Gothicane?
Gothicane is a series of places awarded to the homeless by three state institutions between the years of 1888 and 1998. The 1888-1998 number similarity seems just a coincidence, but since numbers and dates play such an important role in Gothicane culture and philosophy, it probably symbolizes something as well. Contrary to what most believe, Gothicane was not named by Mary Finch, just re-popularized by her after the name began to reappear in 1945. The word Gothicane most likely came from a Masonic Chicago landowner named Justine Sinclair around the years 1879 to 1888.
Photo submitted by P. Reyna__ The Central Wishing Room
It’s still debated as to whom these three institutions are that have a direct connection with the populations of Gothicane, but there is no doubt that the old administration of Dunning Mental Asylum/Chicago State Hospital (now Chicago Read Hospital) is at least partially responsible for the deluge of mentally ill residents into Skid Row, which in Chicago, was and still is, Gothicane.
Gothicane in actuality is a certifiable culture of people and their descendants, most having some ties to Dunning Asylum. At some point in time, reputed to have occurred three times in three decades, Dunning Asylum (under various administrations) released patients from their overpopulated asylum into “work programs” where they were placed in Skid Row and partially cared for by a coalition of charities.
Photo submitted by Arturo Diaz__ Deena the Red in the Cavalry Room
One of the primary charities is rumored to have been Catholic Charities, to which most medical and living expenses were attributed. Along with this, free access to electricity and abandoned homes were granted to those people under the supervision of the coalition of charities with advocacy granted by Dunning Asylum/Chicago State Hospital.
Gothicane grew in size as homeless people were forced to move from site to site, abandoning some places and then settling in other places, where they acted as guardians to abandoned homes for slumlords that were awaiting their buildings to pass city codes for re-opening. This particular role for Gothicane residents made some financially stable, even wealthy to a degree, as the number of slum buildings being protected by Gothicane’s elusive Trinity Cults were very numerable.
Photo submitted by Arturo Diaz__ Underground tunnel connection from Gothicane to the outpost under Daley College
Although Gothicane was really set under Ford City shopping mall in the massive abandoned military facility, there are many names of places attributed to Gothicane’s occult additional territories such as Golgotha, West End, and Canal-Street Enclave, but only five places are actually proven to be parts of it.
These are the tunnels and underpasses of Lower Wacker Drive, the Chicago Southside Walls of Sin, the abandoned buildings and tunnels of Lawrence Fisheries, the Chinatown bridge-way (Chicago’s Graffiti Hall of Fame), Pilsen and Little Villages’ Tunnel-Groves, and the abandoned Lost Theater of Chicago’s Northside. Ironically, these places can be glimpsed in the Chicago episode of the cable TV show Urban Explorers.
The 1918 Flu Epidemic and Birthing a Cultural Bond:
What is a fact concerning the two major factions of Gothicane is that the 1918 Spanish influenza epidemic forced the Rosicrucian and Templar lines to mix, mate and intermingle.
This occurred because both cults put a vast amount of time and training into their wards and in doing so, made them less in numbers than other cultist organizations that readily accepted any followers. Both Templars and Rosicrucians pick their members with extreme scrutiny.
Because Templars and Rosicrucians are limited in numbers they fell particular afoul of the flu pandemic. Once the flu killed off many of its most valued members, both groups agreed on a temporary merging that would have members of each troop mentor one of the others most valued assets.
This resulted in an unexpected phenomenon that being that the bonds between these paired Templars and Rosicrucians were too deep and when the time to end the initially temporary merging had come (not long after the flu threat) the new pairings of Rosicrucian and Templar refused to separate. This caused a deep love-hate relationship between the two older factions. The Rosicrucians angered that Templars still indoctrinated members of their group.
It is said that this is how both the Reds and Modern Darks came into being, basically hybrids of the Templar and Rosicrucian orders, but with both of the groups training and cryptic skill sets.
The unwholesome term (Baby Snatchers) comes from this uneasy alliance, as it means that both Rosicrucians and Templars often intercept the direction of the young teens of these cults to raise them in their own highly specialized ideologies. This purposeful effort of indoctrination is often regarded as occult brainwashing by standard psychologists.
However, all the basic hallmarks of brainwashing are not present in this type of indoctrination. There is no attempt at keeping them separate from their families, no attempt to force a religious belief, and no attempt to refute mainstream values. What is the sole factor in this indoctrination process is their seduction tactics, which often results in the person wanting or strongly desiring to be a part of the said groups.
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The Trinity Cults:
Patients from Illinois asylums originally settled Gothicane. Afterward, this was made more prominent when Dunning Asylum residents conducted their first Exodus there. It’s from here that the brand of religious ideologies spawned. However it’s not entirely copacetic. Although all three sects of the Trinity Cults are Christian/TemplaCatholic orientated, they share some very different credos and oaths to which they abide. These are what separate the three sects.
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The three sects are sometimes referred to by different names, but the most commonly used terms include, the Reds (an all Christian female sect) the Darks (a group composed of Synoptic Knight Templars) and the Slims (a collective of misfit gender-outcasts bonded by religious values) all have a root to Catholicism, though many hold their own interpretations and the inclusion of the Gnostic Gospels of old-world missionaries.
This sole fact is probably why Catholic Charities has had such a major impact in supporting Skid Row’s homeless in Chicago throughout the years.
The Credos/Oaths and what they mean:
The Reds:
The Reds have the first credo. It is “Manipulation, Illusion, and Humanities”. This seems like a hard doctrine to understand, but it’s quite simple. The idea here is that since Reds are composed of all women, they avoid using physical force or direct means to reach their goals.
Photo submitted by Fernando Guzman__ Rosicrucian Red Miriam Finch
This is odd, since they do stick to athletic regiments. But the premise for Reds is simple; to use manipulations to get people involved in their causes: psychology to get people to actually help them; and humanities to ensure that they don’t abuse their manipulation and psychological tactics in the first place.
Reds believe they have the right to use psychology as a kind of modernized witchcraft in order to reach humanitarian goals. Because they do not have the physical and financial power to rise against antagonists that oppress people, they support human rights with a mix of manipulation and psycho-social trickery, this being the controversial aspects to their somewhat contradicting doctrines.
Two Psuedo-Saints:
The violent prankster Cybil Carnate and the child prodigy Karen Paige are revered for their diaries and advanced writings on human rights during their stay at the abusive Dunning Sanitarium during the turn of the century and the 1920’s. They are among the first Reds and first modern female Synoptic Knight Templars. Both were found dead at Dunning and buried at the infamous “unmarked graves” of the Chicago State Hospital.
How do you recognize a Red?
You don’t. Reds camouflage themselves very well, but do not deny their creed or heritage. All you have to do is ask them. According to their doctrine, if there is no danger, they can’t deny their roots. Though this might also be a type of rumored psychological ruse.
Photo submitted by Fernando Guzman__ Miriam Finch
What to look for would be their strange craftwork: this includes jewelry and artifacts that showcase certain symbols. These include a Red Rose and Cross-symbol as tattoos, jewelry, or patterns on their clothing. As their name suggests, the color red is a symbolic color they strongly revere.
The elegant red dress is also a very traditional garment used when exhibiting their arts or any other type of social entertaining. Many Red woman dye their hair bright red.
More definite identification would be the Rosicrucian Cross-and-heart; a distinct symbol of their alliance with females of the Rosicrucian lineage. Antique Jewelry with red gems or beads is also a reoccurring trait.
Rosicrucian Red Jewelry
Reds are consummate collectors of antique jewelry, the older the better. Among their more weird, yet subtle traits is purposely distorted make-up. Reds wore distorted make-up heavily and in grim, exaggerated ways when underground.
Wikkani Red makeup
It is believed that Darks, and any other chosen mates of theirs are somehow attracted to this.
In modern days topside, they still do so to some extent. Another hint would be Catholic decorations adorned heavily in the color red; and of course, anyone woman with the title-suffix “the Red” at the end of her name.
Photo submitted by Jill Ortega__ Morgana the Red
As to what exactly the color red symbolize for them is currently unknown. Some say it’s simply random color preference, while others believe it’s a strict tradition of sorts. Even so, most think that there is some kind of religious and cultural meaning to their crimson obsession.
Prominent members of The Reds are:
Silvus the Red (Sylvan Marquette – Red Cross Activist/Nurse)
Mareah the Red (Mary Finch – A Girl-Scout Founder – deceased)
Mira the Red (Miriam Finch – Political Activist)
Lauren the Red (Rebecca Lauren Prose – Ursuline-Vanojesuit nun and missionary/Activist)
Mariss the Red (Jean Belmonte – Veterinarian / PETA Activist)
Heather the Red (Heather Spaulding – Activist/Author - deceased)
Cora the Red (Corrine Petoskey – also a Slim – Artist/WriteActivist)
Deena the Red (Deanary Lopez – Athlete/Activist)
Vasilla the Red: (Vanessa Rosario – Also a Slim - Activist/PhotographeSchool Teacher)
Daisy the Red: (Katrina Fuentes – Community OrganizeWriter)
Tavra Trabunsky (activist)
In reality, all Darks are Synoptic Knights, a branch of Christian Templars that spawned from the old world Templars, Hospitalis, Teutonic, or Maltese knights of Dark Age fame.
Darks are separated into two groups: the Templar Darks and the Dark Adepts. Templar Darks come from a long line of mentors that originated before this century. Dark Adepts (also called Cultic Darks) are strictly modern recruits that adopt the Dark traditions with or without a mentor, though many hold to only some traditions, while Templar Darks are practically extremists to old-world ideals.
Of the two, the Templar Darks hold the most power and influence and for the most part, the highest level of skill sets.
In all, there are 44 Synoptic Knights Templar in America with most residing in Wisconsin, Illinois, and Indiana. All hold the basic ideals of the Dark Templar credo. That credo is "Art, Literature, and Science". At one point in history it was Arts, Literature, and Alchemy, since at the time, when the credo was first created, science did not yet exist. The word alchemy was changed to science to adapt to modern times.
Darks believe that art, literature, and science make the world -go-'round. This includes the visual arts, the written word, and science-based arts such as inventions.
More strongly, they believe in passing on ethical and humanitarian morals through their arts. Like the Reds, this much older group passes on their wide array of talents and knowledge through a stylized and traditional mentoring system.
Although there are Darks and SKT (Synoptic Knight Templars) that have swayed from some traditions of old, there are only seven that propagate the true culture. These are a confusing line that can be traced back in time from ward to mentor and vice versa.
Photo by Jeremy Burgess__ A view of Chicago, an occult 'Dark City'
Before them, the “Tertiary Darks” did include some inventors, martial artists and masonry men such as Dark Jayden and Dark Fayde, but finding anything historical about them is cloudy to say the least, since most remnants of them are dated from before the turn of the century.
Darks use the age-old tradition of carrying on the title of their mentors, just as many of the Old-World Knights Templar did during the Dark Age Crusades. This is echoed in the Reds who use the term Red as a suffix at the end of their name, while Darks use the prefix Dark at the beginning of their adopted names.
Many other orders mimic this, even fictional ones, including George Lucas' “Sith” (though they use the acronym Darth instead of Dark) as proven in Bill Moyer's book the “Roots of Myth”.
Photo submitted by Cheeky Pie__ an art-print of Templar Viceroy Dark Riddle & German model Shebecka in the Absinthe Room
Darks put their skills in action through a process called Mediation. Mediation is a 900-year-old practice where artists go on soul-journeys to help others and heal themselves, using their various talents as a basis in learning. The premise here, being that you heal yourself as you help others.
How do I recognize a Templar Dark?:
Contrary to belief, Templar Darks are very easy to spot. Unlike Cultic Darks, Templar Darks have no tattoos. This is strictly forbidden in their order. They wear solid black clothes most or all of the time, and all are artists of some type. Most have basic martial arts skill.
Most have some martial skills with a blade or fencing of some type as well.
The one truly defining trait they have is what’s termed a “mentor’s scar”. This is a small scar that is embedded on the right wrist of all Dark Templars.
The most powerful Darks have missing teeth. This is from the over practice of Obsidian witchcraft, which causes the nerves in the jaw to loosen teeth and fall out, especially on the bottom jaw. The less teeth they have the more powerful they are. Ancient Mega-powerful Darks like Dark Vesuvius and Dark Antithus had no bottom teeth at all.
Prominent members of The Darks:
Tertiary Darks:
(Before the year 1900)
Dark Keynon (Real Name ??? - Inventobusiness owner: deceased)
Dark Jayden (Giovanni Zetta - Iron-workeArtist/Inventor: deceased)
Dark Fayde (Junco Stamos – Inventor: deceased)
Modern-Age Darks
(From 1900 - to current times)
Dark Terra (James Yindell – SingeArtist: deceased)
Dark Rain (Kelly Parks – Architect/Artist: deceased)
Dark Vesuvius (Ernest W. Rosengren - Mason-workeorganizePolice Officer: deceased)
Dark Vexson (Mathew P. Connolly – Activist/Inventor: deceased)
Dark Ripper (Marcus Reynolds/Mark Aslan Hasserot – Martial Artist/Naturalist: deceased)
Dark Rex (Jason Mendoza – Artist/Musician)
Dark Riddle (Jesus Morales Djuric – Artist/Author)
Dark Sable (Sasha Suave – also an Inter-sexed Slim and Red: WriteActivist/Artists/Photographer)
Dark Synge (Farina Djuric– The First female Dark Templar and Wikkani High Priestess: Activist/Gymnast/Fitness Model)
Dark Damon (Activist and Propitiate)
The biggest misunderstandings and falsities of Gothicane:
None of Gothicane’s Trinity Cult residents were devil worshippers. ALL were Christians falling in the Templar, Catholic, and Rosicrucian categories.
None of Gothicane’s underground regions were or had anything to do with the infamous Chicago gangster Al Capone’s tunnels. Though some keep pushing this notion, it is a myth.
None of Gothicane’s residents were ever drug addicts. Though Trinity Cult members often drank beer, liquors, and especially Absinth, most did not even partake in marijuana.
None of Gothicane’s “Slim” commune were gay men or transvestites. They were all true hermaphrodites, and most of them were “Intersexed” females.
BTB graffiti artists are NOT Synoptic Knight Templars. Only one BTB is a Dark Templar, and that is Dark Riddle. However, there are several “Dark Adepts” that spawned from him within that crew, though they do NOT have to follow the traditions as their elder Templar Mentor does.
Gothicane is extinct only in the physical sense. Although most of the underground regions and buildings have been cut-off from the public, All of the traditions and members/residents of the culture act as activists in various ways in “normal” society. Though normality for them, is often not entirely attainable. The Trinity Cults can be identified by the religious creeds/oaths they abide to.
Where is Gothicane now?
Skid Row does, and probably always will, exist in Chicago. Gothicane is a part of Skid Row, too. That noted, it would probably always exist as well. However how it exists in a changing social-political climate is unpredictable.
Currently, there are still major institutions with great interests in Gothicane for both its unique social/cultural influences, and its anthropological values in the fields of psychology and communal sociology. It’s greatest value to some is in its simplistic and symbolic remembrance of what happens when state institutions make serious maladministration mistakes.
Was it a mistake to release dozens of mentally ill people onto the city streets? Could they have predicted that their children would develop their own cult made from Christian lineages, occult teachings, and Chicago lore? Was Gothicane a premeditated experiment by such institutions to begin with? Or are the myths of Gothicane and its obscure culture just too entangled to wrench the truth from?
Photo submitted by Lina Gantry__ Zenomah Seekotti Wikkani Witch Counselor
Many whispered conspiracies thrived since then, but it’s important to remember that Gothicane was, and still is, a positive culture and NOT evil. It was certainly frightening to some, but more so, strange, wonderful and unique to many others. In recent times, additional occult groups have found an attraction to the Gothicane culture. Even though most or none have any true connection to its past, they have adopted some of their ideals as their own.

Photo submitted by Peter Cratt__ Gothicane's Power Generator Room
This could be seen most clearly in Chicago's Northside, Urban Wiccans, who have adopted a myriad of Red, feminist ideologies, as well as several other groups that have adopted some of the Darks' tough mentoring systems and their own version of Mediation.
Even some street gangs have taken from the Trinity Cults, often trying to revive the conservation tactics of keeping slumlords’ properties safe, but with an extortionist twist, this part obviously NOT a character trait from the Templar handbook and certainly NOT the Dark or Gothicane way.
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Also, books such as the Ballads of Dark Sable, Vexson’s Chicago, and other publications are reprinted from time to time. Though not directly written by Gothicane residents, they do shed light on who and what the inner-city subculture was really like and how it adapted to the ever-changing winds of Chicago, for better or for worse.
Just as iconic Chi-town haunts such a Maxwell Street and old Wicker Park gave way to change and submitted to industrialist opportunists, Gothicane, too, has fallen. Yet its mystique lives on in philosophy, a bevy of marvelous talents, and compassionate humanities. Considering the belittled and humble roots it all came from, who could ask for more?
Photo submitted by Dan Atov__ Heather the Red
Re-written and edited by Ronald Garcia and Terrance Brown. From original interviews, blogs, and articles by Dark Sable, Dark Riddle and Mina Mink Lee
Based on the bioshorts [The Ballad of Dark Sable, by Dark Sable], [The Art of Vanishing, by Dark Riddle], [Below, Beyond, and Believe by Reggie White.]
DISCLAIMER. I do not own the rights to these photos. Names facts and relationships claimed here may also be inaccurate.
Disclaimer: Although gathered from credible sources, some or all of this article may be false. Or some or all may be true. I cannot validate either.
#gothicane #chicagooccult #pbsgothicane #witchcraft #wikkani #chicagomagik
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2019.11.25 16:48 imjustherefortvtea So THAT'S what the cameras finally catch??

So I just rewatched the episodes where Declan and Holly J get together and they have to sneak around their moms to date. Holly J uses her student council president keys to the school to set up a date in the auditorium. Welllll the next day Ms. Hatzilakos catches them and shows them the footage and says something like "There are cameras all over this school!!!!!"
Ummm bitch since when?
When Liberty spray painted JT's locker but Raditch assumed JT did it himself and wouldn't listen?
When Peter planted drugs in Sean's locker, getting him expelled without a chance to explain??
When Rick was bullied relentlessly and then Jay, Spinner, and Alex set up the paint and feathers??!
When Spinner and Jay broke into the school and were about to set the yearbooks on fire?????
When Paige and Mr. Oleander were not so subtly sneaking into the boiler room?!!!
When Darcy took Peter and then Johnny up to the roof to make out???
When Jimmy pulled the fire alarm to get Spinner out of his physics exam!?
When Jane got shoved into lockers by Derek and Bruce???????

So please tell me Ms. H, why tf are we just now addressing cameras in the school, when all these other atrocious things happened that probably would have been in clear view of said cameras??
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2019.06.09 16:33 BlindManBaldwin 60 in 60: "Unfortunately for Broncos fans, it appears as though John Elway and company have decided on [Von] Miller"

The 2010 season was bad for the Broncos. Really bad. Like, worst in (post-merger) franchise history bad.
They finished 4-12 (the worst record in the 16-game season era). They had the worst defense—by points and yards—in the league. They were ensnared in their own Spygate scandal. They suffered the dumbest loss in modern franchise history. They let a horrendous Cardinals team just blast them. It wasn’t all bad though—as will be seen tomorrow—but on balance, it’s the kind of season that makes you swear off The Sports forever. Maybe this is a hot take, maybe not, but no matter how bad things got in 2017 and 2018, they were never as bad as 2010.
The reward for all this suffering and absolutely disgusting performances on the gridiron was the 2nd overall draft pick in the 2011 draft. The Broncos, fun fact, are one of four teams to never finish with the 1st overall pick. This streak would hold thanks to the Panthers even worse 2-14 record, after which they fired long-time head coach John Fox—who the Broncos would shortly thereafter hire to be their coach. Speaking of hirings, this would be the first draft for new EVP of Football Operations, John Elway. A lot of the NFL world was perplexed, confused, or laughing at the Broncos decision to hand the keys to their franchise to a man whose only executive experience was in the AFL (that’s Arena league).
As Mike Florio, of PFT said:
Sorry, folks, but we remain very skeptical about this. Elway is getting the job without paying the dues. Watching film with his father and running an AFL franchise isn’t the kind of experience necessary to run an NFL team, and it’s sort of an insult to the men who have earned their stripes by grinding for years, learning the business from the bottom up and earning each next rung on the ladder.
It’s almost as if Bowlen and Ellis don’t know what else to do, so they’ll give the keys to a guy whose only real qualifications are his ability to throw a ball and the fact that his presence will sell tickets and/or restore hope, false as it may be.
A press conference will be held at 3:30 p.m. ET, at which time the likes of Woody Paige and the rest of the Denver media will likely pucker up for Elway, Ellis, and Bowlen. Here’s hoping that someone out there has the independence and the will to ask tough questions about the confusing decision to give so much responsibility and power to a guy who really has done nothing to merit it.
For his first draft, Elway would have his pick of the litter. As such, the take machines known as mock drafts were in full swing. I’ve collected a few from 2011 to present for your pleasure, as well as some immediate reaction after the draft. Once done, I’ll give a few thoughts.
Drafter Date Selection Source
Walter Football 4/28/2011 Von Miller, EDGE Source
Fox Sports 4/19/2011 Marcell Dareus, DT Source
Bleacher Report 2/1/2011 Patrick Peterson, CB Source
SBNation 4/28/2011 Marcell Dareus, DT Source
Peter King 4/21/2011 Marcell Dareus, DT Source
Rolling Stone 4/27/2011 Marcell Dareus, DT Source
Mel Kiper 4/27/2011 Von Miller, EDGE Source
Mel Kiper 3/9/2011 Nick Fairley, DT Source
Omar Kelly 3/8/2011 Marcell Dareus, DT Source
Tony Grossi 3/11/2011 Marcell Dareus, DT Source
MileHighReport, in 2011, aggregated the draft “grades” for the Broncos. While this is for the whole draft, and not just the whole round, I’m going to assume that hte first round pick makes up a big chunk of that grade. Averaging these out, it gives a GPA of 3.11, or roughly a B.
A common thread throughout a lot of the mocks, was that the Broncos needed a “safe” pick to add talent to a defense transitioning to a 4-3 under new coach John Fox. The majority (6/10) viewed Marcell Dareus as this safe pick. For good reason, too. His college career at Alabama was the stuff of legends. He won MVP of the 2009/10 National Title game as a Sophomore and was First-Team All-SEC in 2010 as a Junior. The thinking was he’d seamlessly slide into the big gaping hole of the Broncos 31st-ranked rush defense. Von Miller, on the other hand, was viewed as a risk. He seemed to be a textbook 3-4 player—a guy that would be a “tweener” in a 4-3, too big for OLB and too small for End. It seemed as if in Elway’s first pick, he was trying to put a square peg in a round hole.
A few of the Mockers and Graders noticed this and had takes to share:
Josh McDaniels couldn't draft to save his life. In 2009, he selected a 4-3 player to star in his 3-4. Robert Ayers predictably flopped. Two years later, it's almost as if McDaniels is still making decisions for this team. I don't understand why the Broncos are going to pick Von Miller for their new 4-3. Miller's best quality is rushing the passer, but he's not going to be able to do that on first and second down. He's also going to have to learn a brand new position. Unfortunately for Broncos fans, it appears as though John Elway and company have decided on Miller. Elway won't be fired in two years, but it doesn't appear as though he's off to a good start.
While Miller is a great player, he would be better off at defensive end rather than outside linebacker. Most personnel evaluators believe he would be a better fit for a 3-4 defense than Denver's 4-3
I think they are forcing getting a pass rusher with this pick. He [Von Miller] is a little overrated. They should have taken Marcell Dareus.
Von Miller is perhaps the most uniquely athletic rush linebacker to come along in years, and it will be very interesting to see how he assimilates to John Fox and his 4-3 defense.
Looking back, it’s hilarious to see the mixed reaction to the Broncos selecting Von Miller. The man who is probably the 2nd-best Bronco of all-time, was viewed as a far-from-sure thing when he entered the league in 2011. Many thought the Broncos were worse off than if they did the “safe” thing by selecting Marcell Dareus. Hindsight, of course, is 20/20, but still.
This shows the importance of showing, at least, some willingness to accept that your immediate reaction may be wrong. The takes right after a pick—whether good or bad—are based on intuition, past results, and a little bit of bullshit. Any good connoisseur of takes must reform and reshape their takes based on new information. The reaction right after a draft can and probably will be wrong! As we all know, the Broncos would be far worse off if they took Dareus (who is still a good player) over Miller. Or if they took Peterson (a great player). Or Fairley. In the end, the draft prognosticators and Mike Florio would be proven wrong. The Broncos didn’t regret hiring Elway or drafting Miller. Both men lead to one of the greatest seasons in team history. The take artists are not clairvoyant—they are schmucks like us.
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2019.05.14 06:23 NostalgicJeremy She Didn't Look Like Her Pictures...

Like many nights before, I tried looking online for a date. It oftens ends in disaster, or just not finding anyone. The times I do find someone who does want to go out, we're just not fit for each other. Or we go to her place and nothing happens. I'll leave unhappy and she'll make fun of me to her friends at her work for sure.
I've been told I'm not an ugly guy by people, and I often joke if they're just blind. Maybe it's my personality? "No, it can't be." I tell myself. Just before sleep, I open up Tinder and swipe right on just about everyone. After I run out, I decide to fall asleep. "Maybe I'll have a match in the morning." I tell myself, knowing damn well I'm just too optimistic.
To my everlasting surprise, I had a match. She was close, seemed cute, and had an amazing personality. Her name is Paige, and she is around my age. I sent her a typical "Hello" in hopes she would respond. I'm not the greatest at pick-up lines, so I just want to start the conversation normally. I put down my phone and start to get ready for work.
After a shower, I look at my phone. The blinking blue light could be anything, so I open my phone to solve my conundrum. It's a message from Paige, which makes my heart skip a beat. She sends me "hi cutie" followed by a heart emoji. I play it cool, and message her back with a simple "How's life?" I put my phone as I finish my work prep. I check back after about 10 minutes. No message, so I assume she has classes.
I have breakfast and drive to my job at the local McDonalds. The wifi is shotty, so I won't always get notifications for things. Especially dating apps, so I won't get a message from Paige for a few hours. The whole day, I tell my friend Trevor about Paige, and he just laughs in my face. "Dude, you getting a date? Did you go to the zoo and ask out a monkey?" He always had a joke on the back burner about my social life. I laugh it off and say I will show him a picture of Paige later.
I finish my shift and race back home. As soon as I'm in the vacinity of my house, I get a text from Paige. "not a whole lot, just want to be done with stupid school" followed by a frown faced emoji. I find it odd she texts all in lowercase, but I don't mind. We have a pleasant conversation for a bit after I get home. After we clearly hit it off, I ask her on a date that coming Sunday since I'm off from both my jobs on that day. "i would love that" with a kiss face emoji is what she sends me. I jump for joy.
The next few days, Paige is on my mind. In my sleep, on drives to and from work, and especially during work. Thoughts of how this date could go race through my mind. I tell my friends about her, and one buddy brings up something that never crossed my mind.
"Dude, what if she's a dude?" He asks while we work in the outbound truck. I take a second to think and reply to his question. "I'll bring pepper spray, kick him in the balls, and bail. Easy." I say while making a wall of boxes. "Sure, you do that Thor." He jokes with me, but it does cross my mind now. What is Paige is actually a Peter?
Sunday finally comes, and I'm getting ready. I decide to shave off my neckbeard to give the illusion that I keep myself in good condition. We decide to meet at a bar in the college town she lives in. I make my way to the town as it's about 10 miles from where I live. A nice parking spot catches my eye and I make my way in. I sit at the bar, and let her know I'm there. She says that she's right outside. And what I get isn't what I wanted.
He was bald, fat, and covered in sweat. His shirt was covered in crumbs of various snacks, hiding the anime girl underneath. His arms looked like he was actually a Wookie. The chin rolls were covered with a gross patch ridden beard. He looked like all he did was play video games and watch anime. He was a total human disaster, but he was also my date.
"A-are you Paige?" I ask, hesistating out of both fear and disgust. After a pause, his mouth opened and a "Yes" came pouring out along with a lung's worth of breath. I look for a minute and get to my car. Sure enough, "Paige" follows. As I'm about to open my door, I feel a hit on the back of my head, and the last thing I see is the ground.
I awaken to see nothing. But, I feel myself moving. I try to move my hands, but they're now tied behind my back. The pieces come together, and I figure it out. I have been kidnapped, and I need to escape. Just my luck, I still have my pocket knife from McDonalds. It must have been in my jeans from Wednesday, and I just forgot to take it out. I am able to squirm my hands to my pocket, and grab the knife. I make a east task of getting rid of the restraints holding me. I look around the trunk for anything.
At the moment, I see a chord used for easy escape. "Jackpot!" I think to myself and pull the chord. I ooen the trunk and quickly memorize the plate so I can identify the car to the police. I see we're on the highway, and going fast. In that moment, I have to plan an escape, and fast. As the car keeps going down the highway, other cars just might not notice the 20 something in the trunk. No biggie. With no more time to lose, I tuck and roll out of the car onto the pavement. There is a small barrier leading to a small neighborhood. It can be easily climbed by me, not by Chubby.
I bolt to the barrier and high tail it to a house. I knock on the door, and a couple answers. I tell them of my situation, and they decide to hide me. Just then, Chubby's car goes through the neighborhood, trunk still open. I peek out from a window and wait until he has clearly passed. I reach into my pocket for my phone, which he took. Figures. The couple is kind enough to let me use their phone so I can call the cops. I get them caught up to speed, and provide them with the plate number.
A crusier comes through the neighborhood, following the path Chubby took. They finally catch him, and bring me to the station to gather what he stole from me. I get my phone and my wallet, hoping he didn't charge my credit card. I call the bank, and find that no charges had been made in the time Chubby had my wallet. A cop helps me back to the bar so I can get my car and head home.
That was the last time I tried online dating, and I'll face the lonliness knowing I wasn't some guys sex slave.
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2019.05.04 14:09 mydreambusiness How to Find New Customers and Increase Sales

In a perfect world, you would have an unlimited budget to market your business in order to find new customers and increase sales. You could buy lots of online and offline advertising, run promotions to build traffic in store and online, and launch a proactive public relations campaign to increase your product or brand's visibility and awareness. But this isn't a perfect world. Realistically, most small businesses and even many mid-sized firms have more great ideas on how to peddle their wares than available resources.
So where do you start if you are looking for more customers? Learning to generate new sales leads is an essential skill for an entrepreneur. Even if you don't consider yourself a salesperson in the classic sense of the Willy Loman character from Arthur Miller's play Death of a Salesman, you need to understand that the possibilities for finding new customers range from cold calling names from the phone book to buying lists of potential customers to using newer Internet techniques like search engine optimization to drive new business to your website.
The following pages will delve into how to conduct market research to understand your target audience and their needs, how to determine which lead generation techniques are best to broaden your sales horizons, and how to increase sales by following several strategies to sell additional products and/or services to existing customers.
How to Find New Customers and Increase Sales: Understand Your Target Audience
Before you can find new customers and increase sales, you need to understand who your customer is, what value proposition you offer to customers, and what your competition is currently offering in the market and where there are gaps for a new entrant. In other words, you need to do some market research -- whether that means hiring an outside firm to do the legwork or trying to do it yourself. There's an underlying disconnect between your motivation to increase sales and your customer's motivation to solve their problems.
"Attracting more customers is really about listening to their needs, not being a solution looking for a problem," says Paige Arnof-Fenn, founder and CEO of Mavens & Moguls, a strategic-marketing consulting firm whose clients include Fortune 500 companies as well as early stage and emerging businesses. "There are many existing problems out there that need to be solved that customers are willing to pay for today."
How to Find New Customers and Increase Sales: Find Out Who Your Current Customers Are
In order to develop a marketing plan to reach new customers, you need to better understand who you're already selling to. "If I'm trying to expand sales, I have to find out who my existing customers are. What are their demographics? What do they look like?" says Jerry Osteryoung, director of outreach for the Jim Moran Institute for Global Entrepreneurship at Florida State University. "That means doing market research."
Market research runs the gamut from very simple qualitative research to in-depth quantitative analysis. It can be done very quickly and inexpensively by sending surveys to your existing customers using one of the many online survey tools, such as SurveyMonkeyor Zoomerang. You can also get to know the target audience by looking at existing sources of information -- from the U.S. Census Bureau or other government agencies, from trade associations, or from third-party research firms. But depending on the questions you are trying to answer and your research budget, your market research can involve more extensive interviews with customers and qualitative studies on how target customers feel about your business, its products and services.
Certain products and services may appeal to one audience but not to another, so understanding the strengths, weaknesses, opportunities and threats in your target market is critical. You can get to know your customers and segment the market any number of ways including by:
How to Find New Customers and Increase Sales: Defining the Market for Your Product
Use the information about your existing customers to develop a target audience for your business in its drive to win new customers and increase sales. "While there are core customers you are trying to reach, often there are other markets that are also important to address," Arnof-Fenn says. "Make sure you know who the gatekeepers and influencers are; they will affect the decision makers and you will most likely need to sell to them differently than to the end user." For example, parents might be the gatekeepers for products targeted to children or technology managers might hold influence over a company's decision to invest in new software.
Determine which key messages, features and benefits matter to each potential market. Tell these customers how your business can help them solve their problems. "In order to have a customer go to your online shop, you have to find a reason why these customers want to come to you," Osteryoung says. "The value proposition has to be spelled out clearly."
Next, you need to figure out where to reach these customers and whether there should be a marketing or advertising plan that goes along with that outreach.
How to Find New Customers and Increase Sales: Generating Sales Leads
There are a variety of age-old staple techniques and newer tools you can use to find new customers and increase sales. It's best to understand the range of choices you have in order to determine which may best help your business reach new customers. Newspaper readers may not be moved by Internet-based sales techniques. Similarly, business people who are accustomed with hiring only people they know may be better swayed by meeting you at a chamber of commerce meeting than accepting a blind invitation to connect on LinkedIn or Facebook.
"It starts with good people," says Peter Handal, chairman and CEO of Dale Carnegie Training, the sales and leadership training organization. "If you're a one-man shop, it's one thing. But if sales people are really important, you need to hire and motivate good people and you want to give them an upside, such as sales on commission. The motivation is not just money it's also helping them overcome the fear of prospecting."
Here is a rundown on the techniques available:
How to Find New Customers and Increase Sales: Sell More to Existing Customers
In order to increase sales, many businesses believe the only way is to find new customers, but a number of experts say that this strategy leaves out an obvious potential source of new sales. It's much easier to get an existing customer to buy from you than to convince a new customer to take the plunge. "They're forgetting about low hanging fruit -- their existing customer base," says Osteryoung. "If I want to expand sales, the number one place to go is the existing customer base. They already trust you."
Here's how to increase sales with your existing customer base:

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2019.04.27 22:39 mydreambusiness How to Find New Customers and Increase Sales

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In a perfect world, you would have an unlimited budget to market your business in order to find new customers and increase sales. You could buy lots of online and offline advertising, run promotions to build traffic in store and online, and launch a proactive public relations campaign to increase your product or brand's visibility and awareness. But this isn't a perfect world. Realistically, most small businesses and even many mid-sized firms have more great ideas on how to peddle their wares than available resources.
So where do you start if you are looking for more customers? Learning to generate new sales leads is an essential skill for an entrepreneur. Even if you don't consider yourself a salesperson in the classic sense of the Willy Loman character from Arthur Miller's play Death of a Salesman, you need to understand that the possibilities for finding new customers range from cold calling names from the phone book to buying lists of potential customers to using newer Internet techniques like search engine optimization to drive new business to your website.
The following pages will delve into how to conduct market research to understand your target audience and their needs, how to determine which lead generation techniques are best to broaden your sales horizons, and how to increase sales by following several strategies to sell additional products and/or services to existing customers.
How to Find New Customers and Increase Sales: Understand Your Target Audience
Before you can find new customers and increase sales, you need to understand who your customer is, what value proposition you offer to customers, and what your competition is currently offering in the market and where there are gaps for a new entrant. In other words, you need to do some market research -- whether that means hiring an outside firm to do the legwork or trying to do it yourself. There's an underlying disconnect between your motivation to increase sales and your customer's motivation to solve their problems.
"Attracting more customers is really about listening to their needs, not being a solution looking for a problem," says Paige Arnof-Fenn, founder and CEO of Mavens & Moguls, a strategic-marketing consulting firm whose clients include Fortune 500 companies as well as early stage and emerging businesses. "There are many existing problems out there that need to be solved that customers are willing to pay for today."
How to Find New Customers and Increase Sales: Find Out Who Your Current Customers Are
In order to develop a marketing plan to reach new customers, you need to better understand who you're already selling to. "If I'm trying to expand sales, I have to find out who my existing customers are. What are their demographics? What do they look like?" says Jerry Osteryoung, director of outreach for the Jim Moran Institute for Global Entrepreneurship at Florida State University. "That means doing market research."
Market research runs the gamut from very simple qualitative research to in-depth quantitative analysis. It can be done very quickly and inexpensively by sending surveys to your existing customers using one of the many online survey tools, such as SurveyMonkeyor Zoomerang. You can also get to know the target audience by looking at existing sources of information -- from the U.S. Census Bureau or other government agencies, from trade associations, or from third-party research firms. But depending on the questions you are trying to answer and your research budget, your market research can involve more extensive interviews with customers and qualitative studies on how target customers feel about your business, its products and services.
Certain products and services may appeal to one audience but not to another, so understanding the strengths, weaknesses, opportunities and threats in your target market is critical. You can get to know your customers and segment the market any number of ways including by:
How to Find New Customers and Increase Sales: Defining the Market for Your Product
Use the information about your existing customers to develop a target audience for your business in its drive to win new customers and increase sales. "While there are core customers you are trying to reach, often there are other markets that are also important to address," Arnof-Fenn says. "Make sure you know who the gatekeepers and influencers are; they will affect the decision makers and you will most likely need to sell to them differently than to the end user." For example, parents might be the gatekeepers for products targeted to children or technology managers might hold influence over a company's decision to invest in new software.
Determine which key messages, features and benefits matter to each potential market. Tell these customers how your business can help them solve their problems. "In order to have a customer go to your online shop, you have to find a reason why these customers want to come to you," Osteryoung says. "The value proposition has to be spelled out clearly."
Next, you need to figure out where to reach these customers and whether there should be a marketing or advertising plan that goes along with that outreach.
How to Find New Customers and Increase Sales: Generating Sales Leads
There are a variety of age-old staple techniques and newer tools you can use to find new customers and increase sales. It's best to understand the range of choices you have in order to determine which may best help your business reach new customers. Newspaper readers may not be moved by Internet-based sales techniques. Similarly, business people who are accustomed with hiring only people they know may be better swayed by meeting you at a chamber of commerce meeting than accepting a blind invitation to connect on LinkedIn or Facebook.
"It starts with good people," says Peter Handal, chairman and CEO of Dale Carnegie Training, the sales and leadership training organization. "If you're a one-man shop, it's one thing. But if sales people are really important, you need to hire and motivate good people and you want to give them an upside, such as sales on commission. The motivation is not just money it's also helping them overcome the fear of prospecting."
Here is a rundown on the techniques available:
How to Find New Customers and Increase Sales: Sell More to Existing Customers
In order to increase sales, many businesses believe the only way is to find new customers, but a number of experts say that this strategy leaves out an obvious potential source of new sales. It's much easier to get an existing customer to buy from you than to convince a new customer to take the plunge. "They're forgetting about low hanging fruit -- their existing customer base," says Osteryoung. "If I want to expand sales, the number one place to go is the existing customer base. They already trust you."
Here's how to increase sales with your existing customer base:
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2019.04.27 21:31 mydreambusiness How to Find New Customers and Increase Sales

In a perfect world, you would have an unlimited budget to market your business in order to find new customers and increase sales. You could buy lots of online and offline advertising, run promotions to build traffic in store and online, and launch a proactive public relations campaign to increase your product or brand's visibility and awareness. But this isn't a perfect world. Realistically, most small businesses and even many mid-sized firms have more great ideas on how to peddle their wares than available resources.
So where do you start if you are looking for more customers? Learning to generate new sales leads is an essential skill for an entrepreneur. Even if you don't consider yourself a salesperson in the classic sense of the Willy Loman character from Arthur Miller's play Death of a Salesman, you need to understand that the possibilities for finding new customers range from cold calling names from the phone book to buying lists of potential customers to using newer Internet techniques like search engine optimization to drive new business to your website.
The following pages will delve into how to conduct market research to understand your target audience and their needs, how to determine which lead generation techniques are best to broaden your sales horizons, and how to increase sales by following several strategies to sell additional products and/or services to existing customers.
How to Find New Customers and Increase Sales: Understand Your Target Audience
Before you can find new customers and increase sales, you need to understand who your customer is, what value proposition you offer to customers, and what your competition is currently offering in the market and where there are gaps for a new entrant. In other words, you need to do some market research -- whether that means hiring an outside firm to do the legwork or trying to do it yourself. There's an underlying disconnect between your motivation to increase sales and your customer's motivation to solve their problems.
"Attracting more customers is really about listening to their needs, not being a solution looking for a problem," says Paige Arnof-Fenn, founder and CEO of Mavens & Moguls, a strategic-marketing consulting firm whose clients include Fortune 500 companies as well as early stage and emerging businesses. "There are many existing problems out there that need to be solved that customers are willing to pay for today."
How to Find New Customers and Increase Sales: Find Out Who Your Current Customers Are
In order to develop a marketing plan to reach new customers, you need to better understand who you're already selling to. "If I'm trying to expand sales, I have to find out who my existing customers are. What are their demographics? What do they look like?" says Jerry Osteryoung, director of outreach for the Jim Moran Institute for Global Entrepreneurship at Florida State University. "That means doing market research."
Market research runs the gamut from very simple qualitative research to in-depth quantitative analysis. It can be done very quickly and inexpensively by sending surveys to your existing customers using one of the many online survey tools, such as SurveyMonkeyor Zoomerang. You can also get to know the target audience by looking at existing sources of information -- from the U.S. Census Bureau or other government agencies, from trade associations, or from third-party research firms. But depending on the questions you are trying to answer and your research budget, your market research can involve more extensive interviews with customers and qualitative studies on how target customers feel about your business, its products and services.
Certain products and services may appeal to one audience but not to another, so understanding the strengths, weaknesses, opportunities and threats in your target market is critical. You can get to know your customers and segment the market any number of ways including by:
How to Find New Customers and Increase Sales: Defining the Market for Your Product
Use the information about your existing customers to develop a target audience for your business in its drive to win new customers and increase sales. "While there are core customers you are trying to reach, often there are other markets that are also important to address," Arnof-Fenn says. "Make sure you know who the gatekeepers and influencers are; they will affect the decision makers and you will most likely need to sell to them differently than to the end user." For example, parents might be the gatekeepers for products targeted to children or technology managers might hold influence over a company's decision to invest in new software.
Determine which key messages, features and benefits matter to each potential market. Tell these customers how your business can help them solve their problems. "In order to have a customer go to your online shop, you have to find a reason why these customers want to come to you," Osteryoung says. "The value proposition has to be spelled out clearly."
Next, you need to figure out where to reach these customers and whether there should be a marketing or advertising plan that goes along with that outreach.
How to Find New Customers and Increase Sales: Generating Sales Leads
There are a variety of age-old staple techniques and newer tools you can use to find new customers and increase sales. It's best to understand the range of choices you have in order to determine which may best help your business reach new customers. Newspaper readers may not be moved by Internet-based sales techniques. Similarly, business people who are accustomed with hiring only people they know may be better swayed by meeting you at a chamber of commerce meeting than accepting a blind invitation to connect on LinkedIn or Facebook.
"It starts with good people," says Peter Handal, chairman and CEO of Dale Carnegie Training, the sales and leadership training organization. "If you're a one-man shop, it's one thing. But if sales people are really important, you need to hire and motivate good people and you want to give them an upside, such as sales on commission. The motivation is not just money it's also helping them overcome the fear of prospecting."
Here is a rundown on the techniques available:
How to Find New Customers and Increase Sales: Sell More to Existing Customers
In order to increase sales, many businesses believe the only way is to find new customers, but a number of experts say that this strategy leaves out an obvious potential source of new sales. It's much easier to get an existing customer to buy from you than to convince a new customer to take the plunge. "They're forgetting about low hanging fruit -- their existing customer base," says Osteryoung. "If I want to expand sales, the number one place to go is the existing customer base. They already trust you."
Here's how to increase sales with your existing customer base:
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